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Bill14564 09-29-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2010567)
There is NO left turn or Straight in any circle in the Villages. That is the problem with folks here. They do not understand and probably never will.

Though technically, everyone in the circle is making a continuous left turn until they turn their wheel to drive straight out of the circle.

Otherwise, if I'm going south on Buena Vista and get to a particular circle I can either turn right onto 44A west, go straight on Buena Vista, turn left onto 44A east, or make a U-turn. Telling someone to turn right onto Buena Vista at their first opportunity which happens to be the second exit or telling someone to turn right onto 44A but at the third exit and not at the first but be sure to be in the left lane since you are going three quarters of the way around is just unnecessarily confusing.

golfing eagles 09-29-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2010588)
Though technically, everyone in the circle is making a continuous left turn until they turn their wheel to drive straight out of the circle.

Otherwise, if I'm going south on Buena Vista and get to a particular circle I can either turn right onto 44A west, go straight on Buena Vista, turn left onto 44A east, or make a U-turn. Telling someone to turn right onto Buena Vista at their first opportunity which happens to be the second exit or telling someone to turn right onto 44A but at the third exit and not at the first but be sure to be in the left lane since you are going three quarters of the way around is just unnecessarily confusing.

I think a lot of the confusion arises from those who post that EVERY turn out of a RB is a right turn. A simple lesson in geometry and topology would solve that. Just follow the signs or the instructions in the pamphlet they give every new owner.

jimjamuser 09-29-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2010213)
My solution is a more serious one:
Go to 1 Lane inside instead of two were most mishaps happen.
Makes to much sense I guess

I agree. The only nice thing about the roundabouts is the view of the flowers and if you look too long that causes an accident - so, you can't even enjoy the one virtue of them. My main problem with them is the COST - of CONSTANTLY replacing the flowers. And the workers truck has to park inside the roundabout (I think I am correct about that) and even THAT invites an accident.
......I would put stoplights on the most traveled circles and go with the SINGLE lane on the less traveled roundabouts.
......As a side note....in a few years, we will all be in electric self-driving vehicles. I imagine that they will be able to handle the roundabouts (AKA fender-benderabouts). And I love those electric non-polluting Amazone trucks...amazing!

rmd2 09-29-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 2010364)
Second exit from the left lane is legal.

Look at the BIG green signs that are up before all the roundabouts. Right lane for going right, 1st exit and straight, 2nd exit. Left lane go straight, 2nd exit or left, 3rd exit. Easy peasy if you have half a brain.

Well I guess I have 1/4 of a brain because after the first sentence you lost me. :MOJE_whot:

jimjamuser 09-29-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2010410)
If the villages developers really wanted to fix the roundabouts they would have watched the 1950s Italian movie to realize that roundabout should be at least three to four hundred percent larger in diameter. There simply is not enough time for a driver to go from one lane to another and back again to get out of the circle. I come from New Jersey where they were planning around about I have never seen one so small unless it was in a private home

I REALLY agree with this post. This IS the best post that I have EVER read on this roundabout subject.

Bogie Shooter 09-29-2021 04:04 PM

Well, after a new fun thread on roundabouts was started, it has now turned into the quarterly long and drawn out thread on the topic.
Not going to offer any suggestions , however , some people are really stupid! :shrug:

Bjeanj 09-29-2021 08:22 PM

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CFrance, I enjoyed your post, and thought I’d share this with you in the same spirit.

Taltarzac725 09-29-2021 09:00 PM

See How an Insane 7-Circle Roundabout Actually Works | WIRED - YouTube

I cannot see one of these in the Villages as it would take away from the space available for still more houses!

Byte1 09-30-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2010426)
TERRIBLE advice!! This is essentially saying that to make a left hand turn you should stop in the right lane until you see the left lane is empty and then cut across to make the turn. Unnecessary and extremely dangerous.

There's NO left turn from the circles. If you turn the steering wheel clockwise, you are turning right. If you turn the wheel counter clockwise (left) you will continue to circle. To exit the circle, you ALWAYS turn right.

golfing eagles 09-30-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2010950)
There's NO left turn from the circles. If you turn the steering wheel clockwise, you are turning right. If you turn the wheel counter clockwise (left) you will continue to circle. To exit the circle, you ALWAYS turn right.

I disagree with this post.

As long as 2 lanes exit the RB, it's not a "turn", it's simply a curve in the lane.

Two Bills 10-02-2021 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2010566)
Sure, you can do it properly but that does not mean that everyone else around you can learn. Plus you have most of the traffic coming from outsiders that take shortcuts through the villages to avoid the traffic and lights on the highways.
Everyone on here that THINKS they know how to "navigate" the roundabouts argues with everyone else as to how it must be done.

Two lanes in circles this small is ridiculous.

In Europe and here in UK in many cases, just a small painted circle in the middle of a junction with a sign saying, 'Roundabout' is sufficient.
If the roundabouts were three times the size in TV, the problem would still be the same.
It's the total ignorance of the drivers to the correct procedure that is the problem, not the size of the roundabouts.

Topspinmo 10-24-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 2010364)
Second exit from the left lane is legal.

Look at the BIG green signs that are up before all the roundabouts. Right lane for going right, 1st exit and straight, 2nd exit. Left lane go straight, 2nd exit or left, 3rd exit. Easy peasy if you have half a brain.

Also the should never be vehicle crossing into or In front of left lane if (BIG IF) the followed signs and flow pattern entering and exiting roundabout.

CFrance 10-24-2021 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2010688)
CFrance, I enjoyed your post, and thought I’d share this with you in the same spirit.

I'm late responding, but this is really funny!:clap2:

Davonu 10-25-2021 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2010607)
......I would put stoplights on the most traveled circles and go with the SINGLE lane on the less traveled roundabouts…

So you REALLY want more delays, congestion, and conflicts at all intersections!?!

Byte1 10-25-2021 08:49 AM

I totally agree with ONE lane circles. I do not care if the traffic increases and is slower, since I am retired and not in a hurry anyway. For those that keep shouting that we just need everyone to learn how to use the roundabouts, it ain't gonna happen. Even on here, I see people indicating that they do not know how to use the circles. How do you expect all those folks during rush hour that are going to work and insist on taking the Villages as a short cut to learn?
Best thing that can happen is to make them all one lane and put gates at each entrance to the villages from the highways (42,466, 466a, 44). They have one at Rt466 and Morse. And another point of crazy is their allowing golf carts to travel on Morse. How crazy is that? Why didn't they put a golf cart trail off to the side like they do on the other main roads?
And you cannot take a LEFT turn off of a roundabout. If you all insist on saying you can, then you are probably the same ones that complain about folks not understanding how to maneuver through a roundabout.
I see no problem with newcomers or visitors using the right lane only in the circles, as long as they watch for turning vehicles from the inside lane. It is probably the safest way to make your way through the crazy two lane circles.

Bogie Shooter 10-25-2021 10:54 AM

Why was this dead horse brought back to life? So previous posts could be repeated once again?

davem4616 10-26-2021 09:53 AM

perfect

yabbadu 10-26-2021 12:53 PM

Stupid is as Stupid Does.........


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