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Bonanza 02-27-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 836641)
Great. I am south of 466A but in Fernandina...I wonder if it is sand or clay. How do you find out?

It's both -- a combination of sand and clay.

Bonanza 02-27-2014 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Happydaz (Post 836627)
The soil you have in your yard may not be what others have in their yard. For example, the soil south of 466A in my area of Pinellas has a sandy clay subsoil that drains very slowly. Aeration can greatly improve the passage of fertilizer and water to the grass roots. The fact that sandy clay soil can get compacted overtime means that aeration also helps loosen the top few inches of the soil which can help the grass grow better.

I also live in Pinellas.
The roots of grass do not go much further than a few inches at most.
Liquids go right through sand; clay not so quickly, but combined with the sand will drain faster.
The clay won't get compacted any more than it already is and is below the grass by a couple of inches.

What I have found in the Villages is that the lots are poorly graded.
While there is a swail between houses, the main portion of the lots are too flat and do not promote drainage towards the swails.

I still say that aeration will not do enough to warrant the cost.
Fertilizer that is watered will feed the grass.
Aerating soil does not go that deep and who wants to feed the sand and clay anyway?

Happydaz 02-27-2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 836706)
It's both -- a combination of sand and clay.

Yes, but the question is what percentage is sand and how much is clay. This can vary a great deal. As a lifelong gardener I can tell you that nothing is as simple as people think.

shcisamax 02-27-2014 10:27 PM

Great debate. Who knew. One thing I have to agree with is, when it comes to gardening, nothing is as simple as we think.

Bogie Shooter 02-27-2014 10:31 PM

Seems to be going beyond debate.............................

shcisamax 02-27-2014 10:37 PM

Well, I am learning a lot I didn't know. And I thank all for taking the time to discuss this.

Bonanza 02-28-2014 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 836723)
Seems to be going beyond debate.............................

I agree with you that discussions shouldn't turn into debates. It really shouldn't happen.

At a personal level, and as a Florida Certified Master Gardner, I was trying to be helpful without being condescending.
I guess it doesn't always work. :(

Phanatic Luvr 02-28-2014 09:24 AM

Adam Neusbaum does aeration. Plug aeration that is. Has his own business and does a fantastic job. Charges $69.00. His number is 1-855-WE-AERATE (1-855-932-3728) We had him do ours last year, as we do our own landscaping and needed someone to do this service, and we couldn't believe how many plugs were pulled out of our lawn. Down side of it was, we have dogs and couldn't figure our where we needed to pick up after them for about a week. hahaha

shcisamax 02-28-2014 11:43 AM

What is a plug?

Bogie Shooter 02-28-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 837024)
What is a plug?

Two main aerating tools exist — a spike aerator and a plug aerator. With a spike aerator, you simply use the tool to poke holes into the ground with a solid tine, or fork. Plug aerators remove a core or plug of grass and soil from the lawn. For the best results, use an aerating tool or machine that actually removes plugs of soil. Poking holes is less effective and can actually cause additional compaction in the areas around the holes.

Look for an aerating tool or machine that removes soil plugs approximately 2 — 3 inches deep and 0.5 — 0.75 inches in diameter, and about 2 — 3 inches apart. These machines can be rented from lawn and garden stores or home improvement centers. Always follow the directions provided by the store. You may want to consider sharing the rental cost with a neighbor who is interested in aerating the lawn.

shcisamax 02-28-2014 12:47 PM

Thanks for the full explanation.

batman911 02-28-2014 01:48 PM

Aerating is not the same as detaching which removes dead grass. Not sure you need to do either in Florida unless you are having fungus problems.

PaPaLarry 03-01-2014 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 837057)
Two main aerating tools exist — a spike aerator and a plug aerator. With a spike aerator, you simply use the tool to poke holes into the ground with a solid tine, or fork. Plug aerators remove a core or plug of grass and soil from the lawn. For the best results, use an aerating tool or machine that actually removes plugs of soil. Poking holes is less effective and can actually cause additional compaction in the areas around the holes.

Look for an aerating tool or machine that removes soil plugs approximately 2 — 3 inches deep and 0.5 — 0.75 inches in diameter, and about 2 — 3 inches apart. These machines can be rented from lawn and garden stores or home improvement centers. Always follow the directions provided by the store. You may want to consider sharing the rental cost with a neighbor who is interested in aerating the lawn.

That's correct Bogie!! (as usual) LOL

bobthegolfer 04-11-2014 03:51 PM

We aerate
 
If you wish to aerate, we used Adam Neusbaum at 1-855 932-3728. GREAT job and very reasonable in cost - $69.00. Arrived on time and is very professional. :thumbup:

kittygilchrist 04-11-2014 04:17 PM

http://fyn.ifas.ufl.edu/materials/FY...ok_vSept09.pdf
Vast differences in soil composition exist in TV.
Look it up at the above site or search ifas. If you can't find the answer, contact your county extension agent who works for ifas.
I am in Gilchrist where the fill dirt is clay. some home sites were compacted additionally by construction vehicle traffic. These lawns sorely need aeration and addition of organic material. Scatter topsoil, black kow, and so on, and aerate. Just wearing cleats and clomping through the yard is helpful.


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