[JohnN]

I want a flowering shrub in front of the fence at the patio villa, likely two of 'em

Both of these seem like prime candidates.

Any big pro or (especially) con to either?
thanks

[Barefoot]

Knock-out rose buses are wonderful.

[JohnN]

Barefoot, I considered knock-out roses, when I talked to one of the nurseries, even though they're improved, he said "roses are roses" and I'm looking for easy maintenance. However, this isn't written in stone

[Barefoot]

John, we planted knock-out rose bushes in March. And then in April we left for six months. The roses seem to be doing fine (just saw a picture). I can kill almost anything by over or under watering. IMHO, these roses seem rather indestructible!