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daveac83 10-20-2020 12:30 PM

You are only supposed to water two times per week and your days should be shown on your sprinkler controller. Your lawn care person doesn't know what he is doing.

MorTech 10-20-2020 01:31 PM

For that size lot you should be using about 10,000 gallons per month for Zoysia. Set your Hunter controller to water every 5 days (Go to "Water Days" and press the left arrow. Set the left number to "5"). The Hunter MP Rotator lawn heads put down an inch of water in about 70 minutes of runtime. That will soak the ground to about 8 inches. I disconnected the wonky outdoor sensor by pulling the bottom green sensor wire in the control box and then flipping the front switch to "Bypass". It is imprtant to water deep and infrequent so that the Zoysia roots will go into the ground.

Marge K 10-20-2020 01:43 PM

I also have a corner lot and large gardens in my backyard, my bills are
May 21,220
June 25,940
July 21,880
Aug 15,870

nikonuser1 10-20-2020 01:43 PM

You are definitely using too much water for irrigation. I have a corner lot and use between 11,000 and 20,000 gal per month, depending on the rain this summer. I run it three times per week. If you have a qualified person checking your system they should be able to pinpoint any problem that you're having. They need to check every sprinkler head and the rain/temperature sensor to see if it's ok. You also may have a leak somewhere.

bakon 10-20-2020 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruggsNC1 (Post 1849765)
I have seen other Villages CDD bills...

My Irrigation Use is no where even close to similar.

Here are my numbers for Irrigation Use for 2020:

May 25,360
June 26,130
July 34,060
August 40,510
September 41,750

I do have a corner lot so there is a little more lawn compared to homes that are all in a row.
I do not live here full time so I can't keep control of turning off the System when it is raining for several days.

But, Gee Whiz !! ........this doesn't seem like it should account for tens of thousands of gallons difference.

I have had them come out and check to see if there is a leak and they say no.

At the end of June, I had our Lawn care place come out and set the System.
(In June, even with 26 thousand gallons the lawn was looking burned out)
He changed it to 3 days a week. Added time in some areas. Took a lot of time off in other areas.
So, this is why the # of gallons increased after June.

How many sprinkler heads do you have in your yard? (I think I have about 36)

So, does this sound like the normal amount for a larger lot (not HUGE lot) ?
Or, is something wrong somewhere?

If you have a corner or larger lot, give me an estimate on how much water you are using. Thanks !

My lot is on corner and measures with house on it 10340 sq/ft . House is lantana w/3car garage so figure 3300sq/ft plus driveway not watered. 44 sprinklers in grass plus the bushes. Five zones. What size is your lot? Interested to know because I think mine is huge compared to others. Like half a dog park big on the side.

Used 19k in September and 22k in October . I ran it an extra cycle one week due to lawn treatment. Set to twice a week, hour per zone, irrigation company said new heads put down half as much as old ones so I should be getting an inch a week. Seasonal and rain monitor on. We are also not there, so dont know much about if it ran long or short. Do know grass was brownish compared to neighbors first week of October but I put some fertilizer down and greened up in week.

So what size is your lot?

thevillages2013 10-21-2020 05:08 AM

False
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oneiric (Post 1849908)
You probably didn't need to use your system at all this summer with all of the rain we had.
Pop up sprinklers often start to leak around the gasket when they get older. Corner lots have a lot more turf.
The problem with wafer rain sensors in Florida is that 2 hrs. after a downpour, the intense heat dries out the wafers and the system is ready to water again. If you don't live her full time, you can't turn off your system manually for a day or two.

If the rain sensor is working properly it will shut off the system . There is a dial on the sensor that allows you to open or close the vents. Open all the way allows the wafers to dry out quicker and the system to run sooner after a rain. Closed all the way delays how soon the system will run after a rain. Sensors go bad after a few years and need to be replaced. The part is around $30

bmarasco 10-21-2020 06:01 AM

Did I misunderstand? ... You used irrigation water in your hot tub ??

Llaperle 10-21-2020 06:07 AM

Massey told me a few years ago that the “burnt out” look is from too much water. I have only used the sprinklers once this month for 15min.

TSO/ISPF 10-21-2020 06:55 AM

Request a 20 Gallon flow test
 
You can ask for a Free 20 gallon flow test once a year from the utility.

VCDD Utilities/Amenities


They will first come out and check that the meter isn't running when there is no water activity. If so, you can ask for the 20 gallon test, which checks the accuracy of your meter.

I found I could read the meter values if I cleaned the thing off. I ran each zone for 1 minute and checked the numbers. From there you can calculate how many gallons of water you use each minute in each zone regardless of sprinkler head type. Might help you understand if you have a undetected leak in one of your zones. I found 1 zone that seems
suspicious and will have to check further. Waiting for a 20 gallon flow test right now. They came out within a day to check the meter. Now I am
waiting for a call back to scheduled the flow test.

Jolson 10-21-2020 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1849952)
I hope you didn't fill the hot tub with reclaimed irrigation water.

I guess I misspoke. We did not use irrigation water in our hot tub. But thank you for everyone’s concern.

Guitarman1951 10-21-2020 07:23 AM

I have a huge lot and don't use anywhere near that amount of water. I run mine only twice a week with 32 minutes on rotator heads and 14 on fixed heads. I use approximately 10 to 12,000 gallons per month during the very dry months and about 6 to 7,000 or even less during the wet season. Zoysia grass goes nearly dormant in the cold season and just doesn't need that much water. You are definitely over watering.

Footer 10-21-2020 09:37 AM

I switched from Hunter to Rachio in May. Set for 2 days a week. The range gauge never worked well but Rachio monitors the weather for our location and if rain is forecast it won't water. It even adjusts the time per zone. Here's my usage:

May - 18000 gallons - 5 water days
June - 17,000 gallons - 5 water days
July - 5,000 gallons - 1 water day
August - 7,000 gallons - 2 water days
September - 8500 gallons - 2 water days

Before Rachio I had 45,000 gallon months and my lawn didn't even look as good as it does now, which is pretty good. Lot is over 20,000 ft2. I was up north for most of this time so the entire water usage is due to lawn sprinkling. As you can see out of 45 possible water days it only watered 15. The Rachio paid for itself and my monthly internet bill too.

almondz 10-21-2020 11:08 AM

We are on a corner lot, but we don't get a statement that breaks down our irrigation usage vs. our other water usage. Does everyone get a breakdown?

retiredguy123 10-21-2020 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almondz (Post 1850512)
We are on a corner lot, but we don't get a statement that breaks down our irrigation usage vs. our other water usage. Does everyone get a breakdown?

I think it depends on where you live. Go to "districtgov.org", click on "utility bill information" and then "billing account inquiry". There, you can search by address and view almost any Villages water bill, which will include separate irrigation usage for most addresses.

bakon 10-21-2020 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footer (Post 1850471)
I switched from Hunter to Rachio in May. Set for 2 days a week. The range gauge never worked well but Rachio monitors the weather for our location and if rain is forecast it won't water. It even adjusts the time per zone. Here's my usage:

May - 18000 gallons - 5 water days
June - 17,000 gallons - 5 water days
July - 5,000 gallons - 1 water day
August - 7,000 gallons - 2 water days
September - 8500 gallons - 2 water days

Before Rachio I had 45,000 gallon months and my lawn didn't even look as good as it does now, which is pretty good. Lot is over 20,000 ft2. I was up north for most of this time so the entire water usage is due to lawn sprinkling. As you can see out of 45 possible water days it only watered 15. The Rachio paid for itself and my monthly internet bill too.


Did you install or hire someone? Hints or tips? Very interested since we are not there most of time
Thanks

pcacace 10-21-2020 01:24 PM

We watered maybe twice all summer so we had low bills. Maybe you can have a friend who lives close keep an eye on it.

blgunkel 10-21-2020 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakon (Post 1850549)
Did you install or hire someone? Hints or tips? Very interested since we are not there most of time
Thanks

Very easy to do yourself. But you will need wifi for it to work.

dewilson58 10-21-2020 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruggsNC1 (Post 1849765)
I have seen other Villages CDD bills...

My Irrigation Use is no where even close to similar.

Here are my numbers for Irrigation Use for 2020:

May 25,360
June 26,130
July 34,060
August 40,510
September 41,750

I do have a corner lot so there is a little more lawn compared to homes that are all in a row.
I do not live here full time so I can't keep control of turning off the System when it is raining for several days.

But, Gee Whiz !! ........this doesn't seem like it should account for tens of thousands of gallons difference.

I have had them come out and check to see if there is a leak and they say no.

At the end of June, I had our Lawn care place come out and set the System.
(In June, even with 26 thousand gallons the lawn was looking burned out)
He changed it to 3 days a week. Added time in some areas. Took a lot of time off in other areas.
So, this is why the # of gallons increased after June.

How many sprinkler heads do you have in your yard? (I think I have about 36)

So, does this sound like the normal amount for a larger lot (not HUGE lot) ?
Or, is something wrong somewhere?

If you have a corner or larger lot, give me an estimate on how much water you are using. Thanks
!


Tons of info for you.........................and what have you determined???


Inquiring minds want to know.

Topspinmo 10-21-2020 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruggsNC1 (Post 1849765)
I have seen other Villages CDD bills...

My Irrigation Use is no where even close to similar.

Here are my numbers for Irrigation Use for 2020:

May 25,360
June 26,130
July 34,060
August 40,510
September 41,750

I do have a corner lot so there is a little more lawn compared to homes that are all in a row.
I do not live here full time so I can't keep control of turning off the System when it is raining for several days.

But, Gee Whiz !! ........this doesn't seem like it should account for tens of thousands of gallons difference.

I have had them come out and check to see if there is a leak and they say no.

At the end of June, I had our Lawn care place come out and set the System.
(In June, even with 26 thousand gallons the lawn was looking burned out)
He changed it to 3 days a week. Added time in some areas. Took a lot of time off in other areas.
So, this is why the # of gallons increased after June.

How many sprinkler heads do you have in your yard? (I think I have about 36)

So, does this sound like the normal amount for a larger lot (not HUGE lot) ?
Or, is something wrong somewhere?

If you have a corner or larger lot, give me an estimate on how much water you are using. Thanks !

When you get back you need or observe each station aNd time. If you see water running down Driveway, the Street to drain for 20 mins or so, you’re sprinkler heads May need adjusting to water grass and not the street. Cut back station times where water just runs off. Basically you’re probably watering drain more than you’re yard?

Topspinmo 10-21-2020 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1850558)
Tons of info for you.........................and what have you determined???


Inquiring minds want to know.

Water running down the drain:icon_wink:

Topspinmo 10-21-2020 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almondz (Post 1850512)
We are on a corner lot, but we don't get a statement that breaks down our irrigation usage vs. our other water usage. Does everyone get a breakdown?

Probably ones on separate irrigation water?

Topspinmo 10-21-2020 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolson (Post 1849943)
We have a corner lot and for May to August we averaged 11500 gallons. In Sept, the same as the person above, we had landscaping done with palm trees that all needed additional watering. While it did rain quite a bit and we cut back on some of that required watering, we also filled a new hot tub and used 45940 gallons. So for this past month our usage went down to 6820. Sounds like you should cut back especially since the weather will be cooler. And if you are watering during the hottest part of the day it could be that the grass is burning.


45940 gallons of water in hot tub, don’t you mean Pool, very large pool? Most hot tubs hold 300 to 700 gallons of water. Swim spa may double that?

Footer 10-22-2020 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakon (Post 1850549)
Did you install or hire someone? Hints or tips? Very interested since we are not there most of time
Thanks

I bought from Amazon. The 16 zone was cheaper than the 8 zone so I bought that even though I have 8 zones. Then I took a picture of the wires going to the terminals on the Hunter so I would reconnect the wires properly. Pretty easy to replace. Less than 30 minutes. If you do it yourself then it becomes easier to figure out how it works. Download the App on your phone to set the watering schedule.

hooknow 10-24-2020 02:05 PM

I can supply you with information on water usage
 
Reply with a number I can call you on and I will show you what you need to know about your lawn... Lived here for 15 years and have a respectable lawn with low water usage.

tacostello 12-01-2020 11:42 AM

Reduced watering during cooler season
 
I attended a landscaping seminar last fall (before COVID) hosted by a Florida state representative. She commented that watering schedules could be reduced by half during the cooler season ( Dec, Jan & Feb).

Any thoughts on this? Anyone doing it?

dewilson58 12-01-2020 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacostello (Post 1868445)
I attended a landscaping seminar last fall (before COVID) hosted by a Florida state representative. She commented that watering schedules could be reduced by half during the cooler season ( Dec, Jan & Feb).

Any thoughts on this? Anyone doing it?

Absolutely

Bogie Shooter 12-01-2020 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacostello (Post 1868445)
I attended a landscaping seminar last fall (before COVID) hosted by a Florida state representative. She commented that watering schedules could be reduced by half during the cooler season ( Dec, Jan & Feb).

Any thoughts on this? Anyone doing it?

Why sure. Its all here:
http://www.thevillageswaterwisdom.com/

Topspinmo 12-02-2020 09:55 AM

By amount of water usages looks like lot of water running down street drains? I see that a lot when out walking.

Tom52 12-03-2020 08:20 AM

We are on a corner lot with a Gardenia with 3 car garage. I am not sure of the square footage of lot but it is typical. Our monthly usage is as follows:

May 29,330
June 15,970
July 17990
Aug. 14,050
Sept. 8,240
Oct. 18,480

We water twice per week, 50 minutes for turf and 20 minutes for landscaping, Zoysia grass. There have been a few times this summer when I would turn off the system if it had just rained, or rain was expected. I did not do this very consistently which wastes water.

Starting Dec I lowered the the time for each zone to 25 minutes for turf and 10 minutes for landscaping. Still watering twice a week. I might drop that to once per week, but not sure if that would be too little water.

I will consider a new system similar to described above.


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