Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2085019)

Drive one, then get back to me... I have. A friend has one. I would NEVER take one on a regular road outside TV... It's a toy...

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2085162)

Cool, that is you.

That is why it is a good thing there are more than one source or product of a type built and sold - other people might like it. The market will decide. I prefer to have a wide variety of choices, to choose from

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2085216)

I find it odd that you continue to promote EVs (which you admit you don't own) and Atomic EVs (which you've never driven) as solutions...

Personally, when I finally retire and move to TV full time, I do plan to get either a hybrid or an EV (probably the Tesla Model 3, unless they come out with an AFFORDABLE convertible)... I just don't think they are the savior everyone claims them to be...

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2085236)

It is odd you are so adamantly against EV's since you state you don't own one. :)

I have stated several times we are "in the market". We will be getting an EV, the only questions are when and which. We are still deciding.

So, your comment then leads me to believe you think being in the market is an insufficient reason to have an opinion?

And for the record. PLEASE point out where I ever said EVs are saviors or solutions to some nebulous something that you don't identify. I am pretty sure I have not done that. I have implied strongly that EVs are the future of transportation (IMHO ) for many reasons, reducing pollution compared to ICE is just one of the reasons - please take note, I said REDUCING not solving.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2085244)

Did you bother to read what you quoted before responding?

Show me where I said that me being in the market diminished YOUR opinion. All it does is give you more information about MY opinion... Funny thing, those assumptions never work out well...

I specifically said I plan to get either a hybrid or an EV when I move to TV full time...

I just don't see them as the "end all", nor "the future" of transportation (at least not in our lifetime...)

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2085250)

Ah, so I understand now, you can assume I see EVs as a savior or solution, but I can't assume that is a negative connotation?

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2085375)

Hey MartinSE and JMintzer, why don’t you two exchange phone numbers and have your extended conversations in private. It would be nice to not have just about every thread on TOTV dominated by two people.

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2085375)

Hey MartinSE and JMintzer, why don’t you two exchange phone numbers and have your extended conversations in private. It would be nice to not have just about every thread on TOTV dominated by two people.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2085371)

You're the one who claims EVs need to replace ICE vehicles... Not me...

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2085398)

Your ridiculous exaggeration aside, how 'bout you skip the posts we make? That would be nice, as well...

Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2085410)

Wait a minute, are we being Canceled? Censored? hmmm...

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2085411)

Nah, this ain't Twitter...

BTW, have you seen their new logo?

https://images.wolrddailytee.com/202...rits-trang.jpg

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2084681)

All I’m saying is only a few people will be able to afford electric cars they will be only for the elite not for everybody, including me. There’s charging stations you have to put in your home, not cheap, you can only go so far on a charge, then you have to use gas or spend an hr. waiting to batteries to charge & eventually you’ll be charge for that. Then getting new batteries, dealers say in about 10 yrs. to me that’s BS, I worked in a Engine Auto Plant for 38 yrs. Batteries to replace in your electric car will cost at least $8,000. today & as time goes on you know that price will go up a lot. Then you have to pay someone to dispose of the 10+ batteries. People don’t realize the expense of owning an electric vehicle. Now our president is pushing electric farm equipment to the market in 2023. Can you imagine how much food prices will go up. If you think this is a good thing, hooray! I’m not a fan of electric transportation, I might of worked in a U.S. auto plant for 38 yrs. & I agree I don’t know what’s kept secret behind closed doors but I do know more than the average American. Do what you want, but not me!