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Topspinmo 02-23-2024 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2304354)

Ok I stand corrected “dioxide”. Meaning lot hot exhaust coming out of villagers mouths. :faint:

Topspinmo 02-23-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2304362)
Gasoline golf carts are not designed to be efficient or have smog control devices. They use as much gas/mile as a full size automobile. Electric golf carts would help decrease pollution in The Villages. Trees do more than just provide shade, they create oxygen (O2) and they act as natural air conditioning units by having GREAT evaporation cooling effect. They also filter out dust and smoke. Any plant would have some positive effect, even a lawn, but a trees cooling effect would be much higher. And a lawn has the drawback of needing cutting often by large, loud internal combustion engines. Electric lawn mowers being the exception. Also, often a lawn needs to be fertilized (and often over fertilized), whereas a tree often needs little fertilizer.
.........Note that the shade under a tree is cooler than comparable shade from a building. A line of evergreen trees with their deep roots can provide protection to a home or community center in case of high winds or a Hurricane.

Nature trees produce their own fertilizer through season changes. Even here in Florida leaves are falling right now Florida autumn.

JMintzer 02-23-2024 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2304362)
Gasoline golf carts are not designed to be efficient or have smog control devices. They use as much gas/mile as a full size automobile. Electric golf carts would help decrease pollution in The Villages. Trees do more than just provide shade, they create oxygen (O2) and they act as natural air conditioning units by having GREAT evaporation cooling effect. They also filter out dust and smoke. Any plant would have some positive effect, even a lawn, but a trees cooling effect would be much higher. And a lawn has the drawback of needing cutting often by large, loud internal combustion engines. Electric lawn mowers being the exception. Also, often a lawn needs to be fertilized (and often over fertilized), whereas a tree often needs little fertilizer.
.........Note that the shade under a tree is cooler than comparable shade from a building. A line of evergreen trees with their deep roots can provide protection to a home or community center in case of high winds or a Hurricane.

My neighbor's tree fell on or house up north 3 weeks ago. It took down 16 feet of fence, punched a hole in our roof and obliterated our pergola...

We don't have any trees in our back yard, yet this was the 2nd one that fell into our yard in the past year... Both causing significant damage... No storms were involved...

Blueblaze 02-24-2024 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2304375)
I don't think that EVERGREEN trees would look "weird" anywhere in The Villages. And they should survive.

They're all "evergreen" in Florida. But the conifers you're talking about aren't the trees we're talking about. In fact, I have an ornamental dwarf pine in the back yard of that rental I said didn't have any "trees". They don't count because you can cut them down at will -- they aren't on the list.

Ozzello 02-25-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2304264)
I would like to ask, even though it's not a new house. Thank you for your kind offer.

A couple of years ago, I had a large Washingtonia palm removed from my front yard. It was near the street and surrounded by the driveway (see illustration). I was wondering if there is a small ornamental tree that would be a suitable replacement.

I like the East Palatka holly, hard to tell the size of the island from here.
. Smaller option, loropetalum allowed to grow into a tree has a fantastic look as well.
As palms go, a Copernicia single , double or triple would be a great choice and out of the box.

Ozzello 02-25-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2304333)
Sorry, should have been more specific. Drive through "Hillcrest Villas" in Hadley sometime if you don't believe me. Not only has there never been a tree there since the Developer mowed them all down to build houses, there isn't a place where you could plant a tree if you wanted one. It's a beautiful Florida-vacation-looking established neighborhood, with lots of palms and other tropical vegetation. What you won't see are any 20-year-old oak trees in anyone's yard.

In fact, drive through any Southern, recently developed neighborhood. Much of the South side is a completely different environment than the wooded, hilly land on the North. Trees would look weird and probably wouldn't survive because there were none there to begin with. Like I said, there are neighborhoods where you can drive for miles without seeing an oak tree in anyone's yard.

The evidence says you are mistaken. Everyone has asked you to cite your source, and you have refused.

Are we done yet?

The trees are planted, and people remove them. They HAVE to be planted to close the house, I wish the zoning dept would enforce replacement when removed, then I wouldn't have to endure this soapbox
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The southern end is doing this more than ever, hence the purpose of this post.

I fished and hunted a lot of this land growing up here, and yea, there were some areas with no trees, we called them pond and lakes... or a field.

Did you replace the canopy tree that you removed from YOUR house? Wasn't one there when you bought it? Then you didn't buy NEW.

Normal 02-25-2024 11:43 AM

Allergies
 
Am I the only one reading this as, “To pollinate or not to pollinate?”

Ecuadog 02-25-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2304264)
I would like to ask, even though it's not a new house. Thank you for your kind offer.

A couple of years ago, I had a large Washingtonia palm removed from my front yard. It was near the street and surrounded by the driveway (see illustration). I was wondering if there is a small ornamental tree that would be a suitable replacement.

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Originally Posted by Ozzello (Post 2305066)
I like the East Palatka holly, hard to tell the size of the island from here.
. Smaller option, loropetalum allowed to grow into a tree has a fantastic look as well.
As palms go, a Copernicia single , double or triple would be a great choice and out of the box.

Thank you.


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