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Carla B 03-09-2012 08:33 AM

John N gives good advice. Some palms are just too big for a patio villa.

KittyKat 03-09-2012 09:48 PM

I think a European Fan Palm would be the perfect size & like JohnN said, it's bushy.

hedoman 03-10-2012 04:57 AM

Word of Caution: Don't plant them closer than 8 to 10 feet or eventually the roots will buckle your driveway/walkways. Happened to a neighbor who tripped over the raised concrete, broke a hip and spent 5 months recovering. The offending palm was removed....

rstandre 03-10-2012 06:02 AM

Pindo palm
 
In 2002 we bought a used villa with a Pindo palm. We like it. It grows very slowly, is easy to maintain, and is not at all bothered by frosts or freezes. The long arching fronds are graceful but picky so wear gloves when you (infrequently) need to trim off one.

Serenoa 03-10-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hedoman (Post 465051)
Word of Caution: Don't plant them closer than 8 to 10 feet or eventually the roots will buckle your driveway/walkways. Happened to a neighbor who tripped over the raised concrete, broke a hip and spent 5 months recovering. The offending palm was removed....

Wow, I would sure like to know what kind of palm that was, as I have NEVER heard of that happening before. Palm tree roots DO NOT thicken with age, since they continually die back & new roots are generated. I'm thinking they must have planted a very small palm within a foot or two of the concrete & the outward growth of the trunk as the pam matured made the concrete buckle. Or perhaps the palm was there first & someone installed the sidewalk or driveway too close.

batman911 03-10-2012 05:40 PM

May have been roots from another tree in the area. In Hawaii, we plant palms in the center of concrete with just a hole a little larger than the trunk diameter. Palm roots are small and soft. I have all types of palms next to walls, sidewalks and my home and never have had any problems.

villagerjack 03-10-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by daca55 (Post 464360)
Thanks everyone for the suggestions on how I should pick out the right palm tree. Being new to the Villages can anyone suggest a nursery where I might view some trees after I decided on what I want.:posting:

We used Mansfield and are satisfied.

hedoman 03-11-2012 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 465121)
Wow, I would sure like to know what kind of palm that was, as I have NEVER heard of that happening before. Palm tree roots DO NOT thicken with age, since they continually die back & new roots are generated. I'm thinking they must have planted a very small palm within a foot or two of the concrete & the outward growth of the trunk as the pam matured made the concrete buckle. Or perhaps the palm was there first & someone installed the sidewalk or driveway too close.

Ralph, my neighbor, was cutting it down for the lady who got hurt and told me the story. Confirmed by my yard guy as I am going to have one removed as it is doing EXACTLY the same thing on my golfcart garage driveway. Don't know nuthin' bout roots but these folks seem to know what they are talking about....it was a big tree.....11 year old house

Serenoa 03-11-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hedoman (Post 465466)
Ralph, my neighbor, was cutting it down for the lady who got hurt and told me the story. Confirmed by my yard guy as I am going to have one removed as it is doing EXACTLY the same thing on my golfcart garage driveway. Don't know nuthin' bout roots but these folks seem to know what they are talking about....it was a big tree.....11 year old house

Hedoman, do you know what kind of palm yours is? How close is it to your golf cart driveway? Any way you can post a picture? Unless you really want the palm gone regardless, I would consult a few others as to what may be causing the problem with your driveway. I've just never heard of palm roots causing this type of problem, unless it's really the trunk itself pushing against your driveway. Palm roots just don't typically grow & behave the same way oak tree roots do.

NJblue 03-11-2012 01:57 PM

We have a couple of windmill palms and I'm not a big fan. When they first come from the nursery, they look fantastic, but then, after a few seasons they start to look a bit ragged - at least ours has. This must be somewhat common since I purchased a landscape design software program which allows you to create 3D designs by placing different plants from their library. When I retrieved the windmill palm from the library, it looked exactly like ours - brown-tipped fronds and all.

I think the Europen Fan Palm is an excellent palm for a low-growing palm. They are very cold hardy and not tempermental at all. For a slightly larger space, Pindo is a good choice - they seem indestructible. Another one that has done well for us is the Lady Palm. It requires some shade, but it has a neat, refined look to it and it is reasonably small. We have two and they both have survived the cold winters quite well. Our Queen Palms have survived the cold winters of several years ago quite well, but I am getting tired of pruning out the dead fronds and seed pods as they grow.

shcisamax 04-01-2012 02:55 PM

Does anyone do their own landscaping rather than have the nurseries or landscapers put things in? I did a bit of my own up north and, although I know absolutely nothing about Florida landscaping, might try my hand at doing the design and planting. Is there anything I need to know that might sway me to let someone else do it?

Warren Kiefer 04-03-2012 09:46 PM

Palms
 
A dead palm !!

Skybo 04-03-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 474202)
Does anyone do their own landscaping rather than have the nurseries or landscapers put things in? I did a bit of my own up north and, although I know absolutely nothing about Florida landscaping, might try my hand at doing the design and planting. Is there anything I need to know that might sway me to let someone else do it?

With the exception of a couple of large palms, we’ve done (and are still in the process of doing) our own landscaping/planting. The main thing is to do research on the appropriate plants for this soil/climate and to remember that water restrictions should dictate the types of plants you choose. Also...keep in mind the in-ground irrigation system, the type of sprinker heads you have or might need to swap out...and dig carefully.


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