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Shiju 06-13-2020 06:39 AM

Interesting

Seems as though you never really have ownership freedom or really own your house here.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-13-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiju (Post 1783203)
Interesting

Seems as though you never really have ownership freedom or really own your house here.

You don't have "ownership freedom" in most parts of the country. Just because you own property doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with it. For instance - you're not allowed to build a nuclear reactor on your property. You're not allowed to have horses in a city that has an ordinance against keeping horses on the property. You're not allowed to rent your property out to terrorist organizations. You're not allowed to tear down the house, let the property grow out, and then invite all your friends to dump their garbage on it.

Lots of things you can't do even though you own the property. No such thing as "ownership freedom." And that's a good thing.

karostay 06-13-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by grahambda (Post 1725754)
Hi, so we have tried without success to get approval to remove an aging oak tree in our front yard. The roots are out of control lifting up the pavers and the driveway, with a real concern the roots will cause issues with the foundation not to mention the hurricane risk if/when the tree falls on the house.

I am now considering legal recourse or just getting it removed and accept the consequences. But .. what are those consequences? If it’s a fine then that may be acceptable vs the current problems and the potential of loosing our home due to a storm.

Thought?

Pack Salt around the base
Using salt is an effective way to kill a tree. The sodium in salt will prevent a tree's flow of potassium and magnesium, both of which are vital ingredients in the making of chlorophyll. The lack of chlorophyll will eventually kill the tree. You can simply make a line of salt around the tree, and it will die.

retiredguy123 06-13-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1726656)
But a licensed arborist is still required to certify removal is necessary.

Just to clarify, arborists are not licensed by the state. You need approval from either an arborist certified by the International Society of Arboriculture, or by a Florida licensed landscape arcthitect.

tophcfa 06-13-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by grahambda (Post 1725778)
The just responded denying the application stating “the tree is healthy”

This happened to us. They send out an arborists to determine if the tree is healthy. If the arborists reports the tree is healthy you are automatically denied. Our application was also denied. Appeal the ruling and show up in person, with pictures and other evidence to prove that the tree is putting your property at risk. The ARC members are reasonable folks who are following a process. They ultimately gave us permission to remove our troublesome tree, with the requirement that we have the stump ground below ground level and replace the tree with an approved shade tree. The replacement tree can be something other than what is removed, like an East Palaka Holly, which can be easily groomed to insure it remains relatively small and never grows out of control. Good Luck.

eyc234 06-13-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1783463)
Pack Salt around the base
Using salt is an effective way to kill a tree. The sodium in salt will prevent a tree's flow of potassium and magnesium, both of which are vital ingredients in the making of chlorophyll. The lack of chlorophyll will eventually kill the tree. You can simply make a line of salt around the tree, and it will die.

Yea like that will not be noticed by anyone. :faint:

photo1902 06-13-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 1783612)
Yea like that will not be noticed by anyone. :faint:

Technically it’s not removing the tree without approval. So where is the violation?

brianherlihy 06-13-2020 02:01 PM

get a copper nail and pound it in the tree

Steven carrier 06-13-2020 04:55 PM

I just fired massey from doing my lawn service and I am now doing it myself.

600th Photo Sq 06-13-2020 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1783463)
Pack Salt around the base
Using salt is an effective way to kill a tree. The sodium in salt will prevent a tree's flow of potassium and magnesium, both of which are vital ingredients in the making of chlorophyll. The lack of chlorophyll will eventually kill the tree. You can simply make a line of salt around the tree, and it will die.

Another sure way: Drill 5 holes at the base, hammer ( 5 ) " 6 inch " Brass nails into the holes.

Bah Bye tree. :shocked:

tophcfa 06-13-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 1783612)
Yea like that will not be noticed by anyone. :faint:

You are correct, that would work. But do you really want to kill a really big Oak that is hanging over your home. Probably not the best of ideas.

ronat1 06-13-2020 08:14 PM

The following should answer everyone's concerns about getting ARC approval for cutting down trees.

Go to the districtgov.org website, "Committees", "Architectural Committee", under "Quick Links" on left of page go to "Forms and Publications" and then "ARC Application Form". When you have the form up, scroll about half way down until you see the following:
TREE REMOVAL: Do you have documentation from the Internal Society of Arboriculture or a Florida-licensed landscape architect that the tree presents a danger to persons or property? YES NO
If you marked yes, this application is not required, but if you marked no, this application is required.


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