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mirage 11-10-2019 04:13 PM

i ALSO BY THE WAY TOOK DOWN A MONTHS SUPPLY OF OF A HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE PILL THAT COST MY FRIEND HERE IN THE VILLAGES $150.
mY COST TO HIM WAS 29 AMERICAN

manaboutown 11-10-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mirage (Post 1694348)
I AM CANADIEN AND OUR SYSTEM IS NOT PERFECT(NEVER SAW ANYTHING) RUN BY GOVERNMENT THAT IS EFFECIENT. bUT WITH DUE RESPECT OUR HEALTHCARE FROMWHAT i UNDERSTAND IS SUPERIOR. yES THERE CAN BE LONG WAITS BUT IF YOUR KNEE, HIP, HEART OR ANYTHING ELSE IS SERIOUS YOU WILL BE DONE IMMEDIATELY. eVERYONE RECIEVES THE SAME HEALTH. COULD IT BE IMPROVED YES BUT I BELIEVE IT IS GEAT FOR THE CITIZENS.

Why are you shouting?

Nucky 11-10-2019 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1694352)
Why are you shouting?

Sometimes depending on how far out into Canada they are they have to YELL! It Far Far Away! :1rotfl:

manaboutown 11-10-2019 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1694371)
Sometimes depending on how far out into Canada they are they have to YELL! It Far Far Away! :1rotfl:

:clap2::clap2::clap2::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

tophcfa 11-10-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mirage (Post 1694348)
I AM CANADIEN AND OUR SYSTEM IS NOT PERFECT(NEVER SAW ANYTHING) RUN BY GOVERNMENT THAT IS EFFECIENT. bUT WITH DUE RESPECT OUR HEALTHCARE FROMWHAT i UNDERSTAND IS SUPERIOR. yES THERE CAN BE LONG WAITS BUT IF YOUR KNEE, HIP, HEART OR ANYTHING ELSE IS SERIOUS YOU WILL BE DONE IMMEDIATELY. eVERYONE RECIEVES THE SAME HEALTH. COULD IT BE IMPROVED YES BUT I BELIEVE IT IS GEAT FOR THE CITIZENS.

About 22 years ago my mother and father were on a vacation in Canada and my dad had a heart attack. He got some great health care treatment with no questions asked, and he was not a Canadian resident. I don't know anything other than that first hand about how other health care systems work, but the experience my parents had in Canada during a time of crisis was overwhemingly positive.

PugMom 11-11-2019 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1692651)
Australia, Germany, France, Canada, UK, Russia to name a few. Will it ever happen in US?

NO, & you don't want it, either. my hubby from a socialist country is the 1st to warn of very poor healthcare when it's controlled by the government

PugMom 11-11-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1694396)
About 22 years ago my mother and father were on a vacation in Canada and my dad had a heart attack. He got some great health care treatment with no questions asked, and he was not a Canadian resident. I don't know anything other than that first hand about how other health care systems work, but the experience my parents had in Canada during a time of crisis was overwhemingly positive.

my friend's daughter passed-away @ 19 waiting for treatment, she was canadian

perrjojo 11-11-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1694396)
About 22 years ago my mother and father were on a vacation in Canada and my dad had a heart attack. He got some great health care treatment with no questions asked, and he was not a Canadian resident. I don't know anything other than that first hand about how other health care systems work, but the experience my parents had in Canada during a time of crisis was overwhemingly positive.

Many years ago my husband became very ill in Brussels. At first he was in a very large “ward”with many patients. When they discovered he had US health insurance and was guaranteed payment he was moved to a private room. Yes he then recieved much better care.

wendyquat 11-11-2019 10:07 PM

I don’t understand why people cant just use your common sense! Do you REALLY want the US government controlling your healthcare. They have made a mess of everything they’ve ever been a part of!

wendyquat 11-11-2019 10:13 PM

I beg to differ!
 
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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1692672)
Make more doctors ..You can't tell me that in a country the size of the United States we don't have millions of people that are qualified to be doctors today. Why is it we have to go to other countries to import doctors to come and work here at big salaries. If I go to India I'm quite sure if i go to a doctor he will not have america accent. Or came from the USA to practice in India. Stop with the baloney the AMA Controls the amount of doctors being produced in the United States and keeps it low so it is really no competition. So as all the experts claim that competition always lowers the price of everything let's make more hospitals produce more doctors. I'm really not quite sure that would work either as I look and see how many lawyers are produced in this country and still they charge a high price. Least the doctor has to go to school for many years to get his doctorates to bring and become an M.D. where real estate salespeople get 6% to do nothing.

I’m surprised you have not been chastised for your comment about real estate sales people getting 6% for doing NOTHING,

I was a real estate broker for over 30 years and it was some of the hardest work I’ve ever done! Until you’ve walked in their shoes, you wouldn’t understand!

DAVES 11-13-2019 12:41 PM

My two cents worth
 
As to healthcare. We start out unwilling to face,to deal with the truth. Everyone gets sick and no one gets out alive.
I've read that 80% of healthcare money is spent on people who are terminally ill.
I've also read that in the US legal suits and avoiding or trying to avoid same adds 40% to the cost. Two recent examples Johnson and Johnson sued for baby powder. I'm sure not one person suing can prove they only used Johnson and Johnson for that matter far as I know the women involved were no using baby powder on a baby. The other current cases. Opioid abuse. Company found guilty. User responsibility?
When Bill Clinton was president I recall telling my dad the elephant in the room is how they will pay for it. Without that information is is simply an empty promise to get votes.
At the time I had a German friend and asked him how it works in Germany. As to how it works he told me that people who can afford it buy private insurance to get better care. We refuse to embrace that.
I also asked him about a limit on what Germany will spend.
At that time they had discovered drugs to keep aids patients alive and the cost was several hundred thousand per year.
He told me that there are wards of people in Germany who are by our definition brain dead. They are kept alive by machines at government expense.
In the US euthanasia is at best difficult to get permission for.
Fact is that we kill cancer patients with over doses of pain killers
and others are allowed to die by withholding water and food.

In the end there are no perfect easy answers.


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