Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1034637)

I have eaten red meat all my life and at 70, have zero prescriptions, and all my indicators are excellent, but unlike you, I realize that anecdotes don't advance argument. You know, the sad thing about cultural stereotypes is that they are better than 80% accurate, and the one about arrogant vegans is no different.

Originally Posted by Kannon451 (Post 1034657)

Diehard vegans/vegetarians cannot accept the live and let live philosophy. They believe their life style choice is the only one and have zero tolerance for others. As seen in this message, when confronted with different views, they attempt to make others feel guilty and embarrassed.
I think the, there is room for all gods creatures....next to my mashed potatoes comment is the best possibly response to these fanatics.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1035230)

This isn't an anecdote: By age 65, the average person takes at least one medication. By age 75, the average person takes at least 3 medications, and 5 or more is not uncommon.

This information came from a USF Health lecture.

I'm a vegan, age 74, who needs no medication, according to my doctor. All my tests have been within normal range.

If you can eat meat and be healthy, good for you! But Seventh-day Adventists, who are vegetarians, live 10 years longer on average than the rest of the U.S. population. And that's not an anecdote!

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1035239)

You are cherry picking statistics and assigning correlations. That ten years of extra longevity is exactly the same difference between smokers and non-smokers. Seventh Day Adventists are non-smokers.

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1035239)

You are cherry picking statistics. That ten years of extra longevity is exactly the same difference between smokers and non-smokers. Seventh Day Adventists are non-smokers.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1035218)

In U.S., 5% Consider Themselves Vegetarians According to the above link, 5% of the population are vegetarians and only 2% are vegans. So why do people always feel so threatened by someone promoting vegetarianism or veganism? How bad can it be if the Seventh-day Adventists, on average, live ten years longer than the rest of the U.S. population?

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1035221)

you my want to research that a bit, not 2%.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1035234)

When meat eaters don't have a good argument they always resort to name calling (fanatics). And talk about the "live and let live" philosophy, meat eaters get defensive over a little competition - 5% of the population.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1035245)

They also don't drink or use illegal drugs. I think it is probably safe to say that they live a healthier lifestyle and this results in longevity. Trying to separate out which part of the liefstyle contributes the most could be difficult.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1035245)

They also don't drink or use illegal drugs. I think it is probably safe to say that they live a healthier lifestyle and this results in longevity. Trying to separate out which part of the liefstyle contributes the most could be difficult.

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1035249)

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1035256)

No confrontational tone at all, I only restated a fact.
Most folks never realized the numbers of animals, so now they are aware of a fact.

Garner more interest, really in 24 hours 1300 readers.

Support, not looking for support at all. Eat what you wish :mmmm: your health will vary.


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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1035249)

You Vegans better get together and get your statistics straight! :doh:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1035268)

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1035250)

No doubt it is difficult (at least it would be for most of us) but I have read accounts of studies in the Daily Sun where they say they have made adjustments for smoking etc.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1035268)

I could be wrong about the 2%. I don't think every vegan is registered as a vegan. I just did a quick search and thought it was a reliable source.





Is that the way you remembered it? I ate a whole can at once? At the time I was dividing up a 15 ounce can to make about 10 servings and I would put them in the freezer. But I don't eat salmon on a regular basis. I'm a vegan on the days when I don't have any.



Was it the word "slaughtered" that bothered you? I don't think that's being confrontational; it's just a fact. Slaughtered is the word they use in the meat industry. How would you have conveyed the information without using the word "slaughtered"?

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1035268)

snipped ...... I don't eat salmon on a regular basis. I'm a vegan on the days when I don't have any.