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You have to be careful if you listen or watch the fake mainstream news. They tell you stories like Texas hospitals are nearly full. They leave out the fact that only 15% are COVID-19 patients. The fake mainstream news hopes that people will assume that all of the patients are COVID-19 patients.

Recently, an NBC contributor faked that they had COVID-19. He was tested negative 6 times for COVID-19 and didn’t have the antibodies either. No one should be watching or listening to the mainstream media, which is nothing but propaganda.

>>Florida's hospitals are being overrun with a surge of new covid 19 cases. <<

Those English majors that write for newspapers can write those words which are true if there are TWO hospitals in all of Florida in the stated condition.

Can you share the email address for the chief medical officer? I did not receive the email he sent.

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Originally Posted by Foxmd (Post 1803393)

Can you share the email address for the chief medical officer? I did not receive the email he sent.

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803210)

The advisory did not state that the hospitals are overrun with covid patients. Mostly it was an advisory to stay safe during this new surge.

sorry, but the very cynical me views this as The Villages being very scared that it could turn into a disaster. which is why, with today's article on the front page, they again focused on the virus. I view this as alarming as they have usually relegated virus information to a blurb somewhere buried deep inside the newspaper.

if others want to quibble about percentage of beds, etc. fine...but 9 available ICU beds in Sumter County is troubling to me.

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1803412)

Two years ago at Christmastime my heart slowed down to 37 beats a minute and I was placed in "Critical Care" which is not the same as "Intensive care". I think there are a lot more of those beds and beds in what they call the "Step down unit", where people are still in great danger and monitored closely.

what is the difference between critical care and intensive care? - Bing

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1803412)

Once upon a time would treat stuff in the media as factual/ Now I feel we should question everything they print as do not trust them.

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Originally Posted by davephan (Post 1803390)

So sad that the media keeps putting out phony stories

I appreciate this information because all the other Numbers have serious issues Deaths counted as Covid Deaths are the number that died WITH Covid not just deaths FROM Covid. So if you died from a gunshot wound or a heart attack or whatever it would be counted as a “death”. Personally, I would rather know how many died from it. It with it

Also, now they are counting “Probable cases” Not just actual positive tests as “cases” . I’ve heard and need to fact check that in some areas one case can be counted as 10-20 cases. Since this is a new way of counting, in addition to doing more testing, of course the numbers would really surge.

Thus, I have been thinking that the best way to know the Extent of the issue is to see what is going on with ICU beds. Another clue might be in how many beds are filled Now compared to preCOVID.

Words are powerful they can mislead the media is a great example I reread the Village Health update I do not see advisory I just see where he says this is an update but using the word advisory can put fear in peoples lives so please let’s be careful with the words we choose.

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1802979)

You see many media reports that Florida's hospitals are being overrun with a surge of new covid 19 cases.

The problem with those stories is that actual data shows it's not true. As of yesterday July 13 here are the numbers.

Today's occupancy:
All Beds: 77.1%
ICU Beds: 79.5%

One week ago (July 6th):
All Beds: 75.8%
ICU Beds: 77.8%

75% to 85% occupancy is considered to be normal and the "sweet spot" for hospitals, they are built to make a profit but they like to have a little excess capacity.

Covid 19 patients occupy 13.4% of those beds, the rest are occupied by normal elective surgeries, heart attacks etc.

You can find accurate data at this site, which is updated daily. You can check for regular and ICU beds by county and hospital every day. This site is the Agency for Health Care Administration, a State agency.

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At the top of the page you can click on the stats you want to see, beds by county, ICU beds by county, ICU beds by hospital etc Currently there are 19% of all Florida ICU beds available.

What about the hotspots? Are they being "overrun"

Broward: 12% available ICU beds

Miami Dade: 15% available ICU beds

Orange: 27% available ICU beds

Palm Beach: 26% available ICU beds

What about Sumter? 22% available ICU beds

There are currently two Florida counties with zero available ICU beds, Nassau and Okeechobee, these counties only have a total of 8 ICU beds each.

You can bookmark the link above and check for yourself anytime you want.

This means nothing without context, nor without comparison to pre-covid-19, nor without commentary from the actual experts who know what these numbers mean given we are in a pandemic. You are working awfully hard to dowmplay the seriousness of the situation, not sure what your agenda is but I wish you would find a hobby. This mis-information and out-of-context data just confuses things and encourages people to not take appropriate precautions. Do you really want to be responsible for that?

The fallacy in your argument is that you are using information from the state of FL, do not believe that to be true. Remember the gov fired the person who was keeping the stats because she would not lie. You are very foolish to believe that site. Look and listen to the medical people in those affected areas, they are being overrun and the gov is a fool.

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Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1803447)

Normal Hospital occupancy rates are 75-85% without a pandemic. Google it

No mis-information has been posted, just numbers on Hospital occupancies and capacities that are updated daily by a Florida State agency.

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Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1803450)

The fallacy in your argument is that you are using information from the state of FL, do not believe that to be true. Remember the gov fired the person who was keeping the stats because she would not lie. You are very foolish to believe that site. Look and listen to the medical people in those affected areas, they are being overrun and the gov is a fool.

Fake news, she was fired for being incompetent.

The hospital stats I posted are from an entirely different Florida State website.

Always knew the virus hype was a hoax!