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Boomer 01-18-2024 06:04 PM

Well. . .retiredguy123, all along this thread, I never thought it was you. I assumed you were "asking for a friend."

Now, I gotta tellya that you must be doing OK because I have never-- never even once -- in all these years -- seen you drunk-post. Over time, I have seen a couple of what I think had to have been drunk-posts (really mean drunk-posts) -- but they were not from you. :)

Boomer

La lamy 01-18-2024 06:13 PM

Can't see why everyone needs to go by these new guidelines. I think to each their own, follow your gut to know what's best for you. Cheers!

Oneiric 01-18-2024 06:19 PM

Alcohol is neurotoxic to the brain, cardiotoxic to the heart and hepatotoxic to the liver, all dose and duration dependent. The liver having an ability to heal itself, if given the chance, the brain and heart less so. As we age, AFIB is a more common heart problem among drinkers.
How you, as an individual, metabolize alcohol on steady long term basis, simply depends on how God made you. Some more sensitive than others.

Smalley 01-18-2024 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2292233)
For someone with no serious health issues, and who has been drinking 3 to 4 alcoholic beverages every day for 60 years, does it really make any sense to quit? Opinions please.

In my opinion, you would be smart to quit drinking alcohol now. Alcohol is a toxin and a carcinogen. You have been drinking twice the upper limit of recommendation by FDA which is too high IMO. If you find it hard to quit drinking, try going to an AA meeting for help and camaraderie.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-18-2024 08:21 PM

What advice does your liver scan and EKG offer you? If your liver and heart are healthy, then enjoy. If not, you can decide for yourself if the risk of spending your last weeks of life suffering in a hospital or having to endure dialysis is greater or lesser than the reward of enjoying a few drinks every day.

Of course - if it's truly a concern, you could just try cutting back, have one drink a day, and see how it goes from there.

manaboutown 01-18-2024 08:24 PM

Recently I saw a cartoon of a woman visiting a gravesite. The inscription on the headstone listed the dates the man had given up smoking, red meat, alcohol on so on. The last line gave a date followed by "He died anyway."

Stu from NYC 01-18-2024 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2292602)
What advice does your liver scan and EKG offer you? If your liver and heart are healthy, then enjoy. If not, you can decide for yourself if the risk of spending your last weeks of life suffering in a hospital or having to endure dialysis is greater or lesser than the reward of enjoying a few drinks every day.

Of course - if it's truly a concern, you could just try cutting back, have one drink a day, and see how it goes from there.

The older I get the more I believe in numbers. My DR has me do a very comprehensive blood test several times a year and that guides me in many ways as I want to see my grandkids grow up.

Topspinmo 01-18-2024 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2292495)
Yes, absolutely you should quit.

As the cheapest guy on this forum, Retiredguy123, do you have any idea how much this is costing you?

Anyone else in the same circumstances, no.

I can give him run for the title…

Topspinmo 01-18-2024 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2292534)
Absolutely not.

Huge problem.

Wouldn’t that be lack preparation problems.. or several divorces? Some people can never retire due to leaches and some are unemployable so I would put them in retirement category.

Topspinmo 01-18-2024 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2292618)
The older I get the more I believe in numbers. My DR has me do a very comprehensive blood test several times a year and that guides me in many ways as I want to see my grandkids grow up.

Several times year? Only so much you can do before it becomes repetitive clogging up system.

Topspinmo 01-18-2024 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2292603)
Recently I saw a cartoon of a woman visiting a gravesite. The inscription on the headstone listed the dates the man had given up smoking, red meat, alcohol on so on. The last line gave a date followed by "He died anyway."

Only heard stories one who got out of this world alive? :oops:

dougawhite 01-18-2024 10:30 PM

Simple, everybody knows that alcohol kills germs. It therefore also kills germs inside your digestive track. So as you drink alcohol, you destroy your microbiome, which is made of 'beneficial germs'. A messed up microbiome causes all sorts of problems because you get all your body's needs from digesting food. Screw up your microbiome and you disrupt digestion, and don't get the elements your body needs.

dhdallas 01-18-2024 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2292233)
For someone with no serious health issues, and who has been drinking 3 to 4 alcoholic beverages every day for 60 years, does it really make any sense to quit? Opinions please.

If you are even thinking that you might have a problem with alcohol then you probably do. Try going without for a week & see how you feel. Do you miss it, do you feel antsy or irritable, are you counting the days until you can have a drink again, do you feel depressed? A non-alcoholic can take it or leave it for any length of time without giving it a thought. Take it from one who knows.

Topspinmo 01-18-2024 10:52 PM

Covid started me drinking.

dewilson58 01-19-2024 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2292631)
Covid started me drinking.

a lot of starters and a lot more volume per participant

sales increased significantly during the flu


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