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graciegirl 03-25-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 648173)
Okay, so what does UYA mean?

It means Ugly yard Ahoy or
Umbrella yet Ahead or
Us yield always

;);););

Villages PL 03-25-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Parker (Post 647073)
More and more, my personal research agrees with the conclusions of this article. I think we may have all been sold a bill of goods with the high-carb, whole grain, low-fat, low protein, bought-and-paid-for-by-industry, current federal food guidelines. Study after study is calling the into question the traditional American diet. But we will see how it all plays out in the health of real people, now that new dietary ideas are taking root.

Not all of us have been sold a bill of goods with the high-carb diet. I have always said we should measure carbs and have one serving with each of three meals. Four servings per day at most. Is that HIGH carb? I don't think so.

As far as low fat: I don't believe in high or low. I believe in getting the right amount. About one (measured) serving per meal.

As far as low protein: Again, I don't believe in high or low, I believe in getting the right amount for our daily needs, and this can be calculated. Furthermore, protein from plant sources is the least risky as it will not promote cancer.

Villages PL 03-25-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 647282)
I believe that if we all ate more vegetables and fruit and less meat and fat, we could enjoy some carbohydrates.

Some of the things that our moms did to stretch the meals when some of us were small are still good nutritional practices; things like vegetable soup and adding beans to things and making cassaroles with not too much meat. And fruit in our lunch boxes. Didn't have money for pop. (soda) or much candy either. And we ran and walked and rode our bikes everywhere. It was safer to do so.

In following the above link, I found this one too. Seems like this young woman has spent a lot of time debunking The China Study; The China Study: Fact or Fallacy? | Raw Food SOS

I read some of the debunking and she questioned something that I questioned from the beginning. I read and reread parts of "The China Study" thinking that I had missed something. It was about milk "casein". In his animal studies he kept using milk "casein" and formed conclusions based on that alone, or so it seemed. Although, in her debunking, she later says that he did use some other forms of animal protein but didn't elaborate on the results.

I agree with her that that was a weakness in his presentation. I never thought it was a perfect book but I think he gets enough right to make it very worthwhile. For example, if you were to read all that he says about dairy, there's enough about dairy, besides the possibility of cancer promotion, to make you want to stop consuming dairy. For one thing, dairy hasn't been proved to build strong bones. Also, why try to get calcium and protein from a dairy source when it contains no fiber or other plant nutrients?

senior citizen 03-26-2013 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 647992)
Never taken any meds (forever), always have eaten meat. Your mileage may vary.

You are one of the rare ones left today who take no pharmaceuticals.
Neither do we. I salute you. You must be doing something right to be able to function on a daily basis without popping a little pill advertized ad naseum each night on the evening news shows, followed by the list of contraindications which are scarier than the supposed malady itelf.

Uptown Girl 03-26-2013 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 648173)
Okay, so what does UYA mean?

It stands for 'Up your Arsenal".( It's from a video game.)
.... not to be confused with UYOK (Up your old kimono)... one of my sainted Mother's slang inventions. At least I think she invented it.

P.S. LOVED the debunk links. Our girls (Gracie and Barefoot) made some especially valuable contributions to allow for a broader perspective!

Villages PL 03-26-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 648679)

P.S. LOVED the debunk links. Our girls (Gracie and Barefoot) made some especially valuable contributions to allow for a broader perspective!

It's one thing to throw up links, but another thing to digest the information, get something out of it and communicate it to others. So I'm waiting to here of something substantive that has been learned. What is learned from debunking a book that most have not read, when most of the debunking is in technical jargon that is not understandable to the average person?

If you "LOVED" it, I'd be interested to know what you think you learned from it that makes it "valuable".


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