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graciegirl 02-01-2018 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1511132)
I don't see that you have provided any data/evidence to support this claim, which I recall you have made in the past. Moffitt and UofFL/Shands are a bit over an hour away and Mayo is about 2.5 hours away. They are not, however, applicable for us for emergency care.
I think Moffitt and Gainesville both have very good reputations and large teaching hospitals. Moffitt is said to be the third best Cancer Center in this Country after Sloan Kettering and M.D. Anderson in Houston. Gainesville is also held in esteem by many astute people. The Mayo Satellite is also regarded highly.

But it is my personal opinion that many parts of Florida still lack excellent medical facilities, but that too is changing. A rising tide (and savvy population) lifts all ships.

EDITED. MOFFIT IS NOT THE THIRD BEST CANCER CENTER. I was wrong.

Viperguy 02-01-2018 11:14 AM
Just what I mean. Supply and demand. Too many retirees.....to few medical personnel. What aspiring young doctor wants to live in central Florida. Med schools are not pumping out PCP's, they simply don't make any money and have to deal with all the government mandates. And to think that many want government to control medical care? I'm talking in broad generalities, but the best care is in metro areas. JMHO

biker1 02-01-2018 12:46 PM
The term "lacking" is a poor choice of words. No parts of FL are "lacking" excellent medical facilities - you simply may have to travel a bit further depending on where you live, and this is true for the rest of the country. This may be problematic under certain circumstances (although at least Moffitt and Mayo have extended stay facilities) as it can be regardless of what state you live in but trying to label FL as being lacking in this department is disingenuous. In fact, I would suggest that we have excellent choices. What parts of FL have you lived in, besides The Villages, that would lead you to your conclusion?

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1511146)
I think Moffitt and Gainesville both have very good reputations and large teaching hospitals. Moffitt is said to be the third best Cancer Center in this Country after Sloan Kettering and M.D. Anderson in Houston. Gainesville is also held in esteem by many astute people. The Mayo Satellite is also regarded highly.

But it is my personal opinion that many parts of Florida still lack excellent medical facilities, but that too is changing. A rising tide (and savvy population) lifts all ships.

PennBF 02-01-2018 02:37 PM
Top 5 Cancer Hospitals
 
Just to clear the air. Moffit is not #3 in the US when it comes to cancer. The top 5 are; MD Anderson, Memorial Sloan Kettering, Mayo, Dana Farber, UCLA Medical Center. Moffit is rated well but not # 3. An opinion from someone who has been to most of them including Moffitt is as one expert noted a lot of the rating is based on good PR to get a high ranking. I think my ranking would be Mayo, Lahey Clinic in Arlington, Mass, Sloan Kettering. Have personal issues with MD Anderson and Moffitt. Just some thoughts.:shrug:

EPutnam1863 02-01-2018 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1510743)
Answer: There is NOTHING wrong with that, in fact, THAT IS the standard of care nationwide.

Appropriate treatment is to confirm the presence of a renal calculus with a stone protocol spiral CT, then send the patient home with pain meds, anti-emetics, and instructions to hydrate well and strain all urine. The patient should have a follow up outpatient appointment with a urologist 1-2 weeks later. BUT....the patient should also receive strict instructions to return to the ER if they have INTRACTABLE pain, INTRACTABLE nausea and vomiting, or a fever over 101F. Note: intractable means it won't stop, not just a few episodes of vomiting or low-moderate level of pain---they'll just up the meds and send you back home.
While my husband was at a business conference in Germany, he came down with a kidney stone and was literally screaming with pain. He was admitted and treated right away in spite of the language barrier. BC/BS refused at first to pay the claim because it was done overseas but finally paid up.

EPutnam1863 02-01-2018 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cgilcreast (Post 1511160)
Just what I mean. Supply and demand. Too many retirees.....to few medical personnel. What aspiring young doctor wants to live in central Florida. Med schools are not pumping out PCP's, they simply don't make any money and have to deal with all the government mandates. And to think that many want government to control medical care? I'm talking in broad generalities, but the best care is in metro areas. JMHO
I agree. Metro hospitals provide the most varied kind of training. Who wants to learn in a hospital where most of the patients may be elderly and therefore have pretty much the same ailments?

EPutnam1863 02-01-2018 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1511108)
:agree: Your post is spot on.
The older retirees when they move to TV may need to think twice about moving away from areas where health care services are excellent to areas where they are not as good.

dbussone 02-01-2018 03:53 PM
Bad experience at the villages hospital
 
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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1511243)
The older retirees when they move to TV may need to think twice about moving away from areas where health care services are excellent to areas where they are not as good.


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graciegirl 02-01-2018 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1511213)
Just to clear the air. Moffit is not #3 in the US when it comes to cancer. The top 5 are; MD Anderson, Memorial Sloan Kettering, Mayo, Dana Farber, UCLA Medical Center. Moffit is rated well but not # 3. An opinion from someone who has been to most of them including Moffitt is as one expert noted a lot of the rating is based on good PR to get a high ranking. I think my ranking would be Mayo, Lahey Clinic in Arlington, Mass, Sloan Kettering. Have personal issues with MD Anderson and Moffitt. Just some thoughts.:shrug:
You are absolutely correct and I was wrong.

JoMar 02-01-2018 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1511243)
The older retirees when they move to TV may need to think twice about moving away from areas where health care services are excellent to areas where they are not as good.
So what you are saying is that you should move someplace where they have great healthcare and ignore considering a place that can improve your health, provide a whole lot of fun stuff to do, meet great new friends, gain more life experiences. I think what you defined is move to God's waiting room, not his play room.

fw102807 02-01-2018 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1511299)
So what you are saying is that you should move someplace where they have great healthcare and ignore considering a place that can improve your health, provide a whole lot of fun stuff to do, meet great new friends, gain more life experiences. I think what you defined is move to God's waiting room, not his play room.
Love this. I moved from city with 2 outstandingly rated hospitals because if I stayed up there I would be a couch potato. I had gotten to the point where I did not go out during the winter unless it was absolutely necessary and that was far from healthy. If I am going to die I want to go out having fun.

golfing eagles 02-01-2018 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1511234)
While my husband was at a business conference in Germany, he came down with a kidney stone and was literally screaming with pain. He was admitted and treated right away in spite of the language barrier. BC/BS refused at first to pay the claim because it was done overseas but finally paid up.
All that proves is that German hospitals have no idea of the correct treatment for renal calculi.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

dbussone 02-01-2018 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1511305)
All that proves is that German hospitals have no idea of the correct treatment for renal calculi.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


A urology chair friend of mine at a university in the West told me that the first line treatment for kidney stones was a 6 pack of beer.


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justjim 02-01-2018 08:04 PM
Not often mentioned but there is Waterman hospital in Eustis. The hospital is on 441 just east of Tavares. Anyone had experience there?

EPutnam1863 02-01-2018 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1511299)
So what you are saying is that you should move someplace where they have great healthcare and ignore considering a place that can improve your health, provide a whole lot of fun stuff to do, meet great new friends, gain more life experiences. I think what you defined is move to God's waiting room, not his play room.
I said "move away." Having better health care would help improve one's quality of life, I would think. So what I infer from your posting is that by moving to a fun place would be a cure for one's cancer, serious heart condition, and the more serious life-threatening ailments. Perhaps TV needs to advertise itself as a place where one can be cured, and more ill people can come to TV instead of Mexico, looking for cures?


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