I think that several of us advocating eating better are hitting a nerve in some, they know it makes sense but may feel threatened by reading that the way and what they eat is just simply not good. So they defend how they eat bad and it doesn't matter...........

So they still read the info posted.

What's most rewarding for me is the fact that I'm getting PM's every few days asking serious questions and tell me their glad that this issue as been raised and made them aware of the problems eating badly.

In the end it's their choice, it's strange but I see more resistance here to living healthier and longer than the retirement village I was at this past winter.

Many retirees are resigned to the fact that they are aging and it's normal to gain weight, take meds to offset the abnormal test results.
let's be honest to change your eating habits after 50+ years isn't as easy for some without strong will power as others with less will power. Just like some quit smoking easier than others.

I know that if anyone tried it for 30 days they will feel a new awaking in many many ways.

There after it's easy to stay on a plant based diet.

I have introduced perhaps 75+ people in the past year that I know of about 1/3 are sticking with it.

Off soap box!!!!

What a bunch of hogwash. No one is threatened and no one is defending eating poorly. They are defending what balance in their life means. Healthy food is just one piece that goes into living a healthy life. I don't think anyone has an issue with looking at new information and trying new things EXCEPT those who are extremists. What people have an issue with is a condescending and arrogant demeanor. No one likes to be talked down too. I frankly think this thread should go the way of file 13 since I am pretty sure it was started by someone who wanted to cause dissension. It has gotten quite ugly and pointless. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is time to leave it at that. End of report.

I wish everyone good luck with their health and their diet. I have not been influenced to change anything I do re: diet and nutrition, in any way by this thread. If you are happy with your diet, health, and nutrition - bon appetit. I am going to enjoy a steak, baked potato and salad now that I have had a nice cocktail.

and red wine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would agree with Shcisamax that it seems that this thread, and other comparable threads, are not so much a discussion or sharing of ideas, but seem to be more a lecture series given by a few. There does not seem to be any room to consider another's viewpoint, and a very narrow margin of what is acceptable or not. IMHO this rigid, almost desparate need to live such a starkly controlled existence results in just that...a very starkly controlled existence. When someone expresses an appreciation for the joyful sharing of food with loved ones, even involving an occasional treat, they are almost reprimanded. It was suggested that to enjoy an occasional treat implied a lack of understanding! Really??? I think a lack of social interaction and joy in living can be just as "unbalanced" as the occasional treat.

Going to close this thread for now while Admin and Mods discuss its disposition.