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jimbo2012 07-11-2012 07:05 PM

Website is owned as follows

S. Owen Foundation
Sharyl Owen
533 Vista Del Campo
Camarillo, CA 93010

Villages PL 07-12-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 520197)
Website is owned as follows

S. Owen Foundation
Sharyl Owen
533 Vista Del Campo
Camarillo, CA 93010

Thanks, but I still wonder: Who is Sharyl Owen? Is she a scientist? Student? Who does she work for? Who pays for her website? Does she get funding from industry?

Everything on her website seems scientific, but the same can be said about D'Amato's book, "Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type". At the end of his book in appendix C, he has a long list of references. Among them are papers he had published. I'm not sure what those papers prove, but I'm not sure what Owen's papers prove either.

So I wonder: Who is the pure scam, D'Adamo or the Owen Foundation?

We are at a big disadvantage because we can't gain access to scientific papers published in journals. A while back I called the Lady Lake library to see if I could get some journal papers. Essentially, I was told I couldn't. You have to be a doctor to gain access, and you would have to go to a medical library.

Taltarzac725 07-12-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 520481)
Thanks, but I still wonder: Who is Sharyl Owen? Is she a scientist? Student? Who does she work for? Who pays for her website? Does she get funding from industry?

Everything on her website seems scientific, but the same can be said about D'Amato's book, "Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type". At the end of his book in appendix C, he has a long list of references. Among them are papers he had published. I'm not sure what those papers prove, but I'm not sure what Owen's papers prove either.

So I wonder: Who is the pure scam, D'Amato or the Owen Foundation?

We are at a big disadvantage because we can't gain access to scientific papers published in journals. A while back I called the Lady Lake library to see if I could get some journal papers. Essentially, I was told I couldn't. You have to be a doctor to gain access, and you would have to go to a medical library.


That's a good question. I cannot find the credentials of Sharyl Owen. I did find this which is interesting. Do not know the writers' various qualifications either:
Cordain Newsletter Criticising Blood Type Diets

uujudy 07-12-2012 01:33 PM

Oh Darn It!
 
I checked the diet for my blood type, and donuts were nowhere to be found! No chocolate, no mac 'n cheese, no ribs, no corn on the cob! :icon_hungry:

pooh 07-12-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by uujudy (Post 520568)
I checked the diet for my blood type, and donuts were nowhere to be found! No chocolate, no mac 'n cheese, no ribs, no corn on the cob! :icon_hungry:

You must be B......no corn for me either,,,,,,not a chance, especially since discovering how good it tastes when cobs are cooked in the microwave!!!

Taltarzac725 07-12-2012 03:43 PM

Admitting my personal bias-- I really do not like this diet because I am a AB- and it limits severely what I should eat.

Now if I cut out all the foods that this AB diet recommends, I probably would be a lot healthy and weigh less but the same can be said of any diet that cuts out these various foods. http://www.ehow.com/about_5505941_di...-ab-blood.html

Villages PL 07-13-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 520645)
Admitting my personal bias-- I really do not like this diet because I am a AB- and it limits severely what I should eat.

Now if I cut out all the foods that this AB diet recommends, I probably would be a lot healthy and weigh less but the same can be said of any diet that cuts out these various foods. Diet for Type AB Blood | eHow.com

You should read "The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell. After reading it I can't help but think that animal protein is the wrong way to go, especially for those of us who are in our older years.

Many diets like Atkins, Zone, Paleo and D'Adamo vocus on the short term effect of weight loss to the near exclusion of the long term effect of preventing cancer and other degenerative diseases. Cavemen ate animal protein to great benefit because they needed the concentrated energy to live their hunter-gatherer lifestyle. And they didn't have to worry about cancer and many other degenerative diseases because they didn't live long enough to get any of them.

But now that the average life expectancy in the U.S. is about 78.37, we need to shift the focus to the prevention of degenerative diseases. And I think the way to accomplish that is by eating a vegan diet. That's why I recommend reading "The China Study".

Of course there will be many who say they can't do it. Well, I guess that means I'm recommending it for those who can.

Carney125 07-27-2012 12:35 PM

Peter D'Adamo, N.D. has recently published a popular book in which he motivates an eating plan based on his interpretation of the ABO system groups and health. This system kind diet plan theory motivates daily consumption of animal flesh by people of system kind O and system kind B.

jimbo2012 07-27-2012 01:10 PM

There just isn't enough interest by other researchers/doctors on this theory, probably because because of the disbelief.

Called a scam or invalid in several sites, two

Before reading or following this "wing nut" theory.

You should read "The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell. as suggested by villagePL

Taltarzac725 07-27-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 529294)
There just isn't enough interest by other researchers/doctors on this theory, probably because because of the disbelief.

Called a scam or invalid in several sites, two

Before reading or following this "wing nut" theory.

You should read "The China Study" by T. Colin Campbell. as suggested by villagePL

Thanks for the recommendation, VillagesPL and jimbo2012. ::: THE CHINA STUDY :::

FoPAA 07-27-2012 03:45 PM

Lectins are pretty ubiquitous and not just in foods. Symptoms associated with consumption of high levels of lectins are gastrointestinal where they screw up cell repair and may affect gut immunity. One of 'em is even used in biological warfare. The lab experiment of clumping of blood cells is contrived and irrelevant to real life. Put blood cells in water and they lyse (explode) - so we should not drink water? The diet is based on the presumption that since high levels are a problem - any level is dangerous and that's not validated. As the founder of toxicology said - the poison is in the dose. We're exposed to all sorts of bad stuff - for example, grains and nuts (esp. all peanuts and peanut butter) include aflatoxins - these are liver toxins and carcinogens. Manufacturers of foods at risk keep the levels to what is considered by science and the government to be say is "safe."
Lack of interest in such theories is more apt to be attributed to the fact that they exaggerate what's known beyond what's reasonable.

Anyone can write a book, selecting what they want as support .

(Posted by FoPaa's grumpy scientist husband :grumpy:)

FoPAA 07-27-2012 03:58 PM

and you can find scientific papers on google scholar and pubmed. Problem is that the entire paper may not be available but the summary ("abstract') almost always is.


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