Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1064994)

Wow! With all the stuff about vegan, vegetarian and meat diets lately, this is a real eye opener. This should bring on some interesting reading within the next few days.

Personally, I'm salivating just thinking about a grilled cheese sandwich on a croissant with some black forest ham. It's nothing elaborate but oh-so-good.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1064994)

Wow! With all the stuff about vegan, vegetarian and meat diets lately, this is a real eye opener. This should bring on some interesting reading within the next few days.

Personally, I'm salivating just thinking about a grilled cheese sandwich on a croissant with some black forest ham. It's nothing elaborate but oh-so-good.

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1064701)

The ubiquitous search for the secret to longevity has frustrated man ever since Eve seduce Adam and mankind lost paradise. Think about that for a moment two words "Trust me" killed the golden goose or cooked our goose.

However, good news. Dan Buettner, author of Blue Zone Solution: Eating and Living Like The World's Healthiest People" explains that the book of Genesis had the answer all along when it directed ëat the fruits of seed bearing plants (beans) Longevity is attributed to the people of Sardinia because of fava beans, to Costa Rica black beans, lentils in Ikaria and soy beans in Okinawa.

Dollar for dollar most beans deliver more protein than beef. And bean's high fiber content serves as a gut compost of sorts enabling healthy bacteria to thrive

Ever since I was a kid it intrigued me that cowboys ate a lot of beef and beans on the trail . So now we know why? And so I followed suit. Fava beans were served a variety of ways in my family The favorite being fava beans with greens. Beans and franks another simple solution

So your search is over....that is until the next authority comes along with a newer and hence better discovery


Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1065037)

You had me until you mentioned beans and franks. There's noting healthy about American baked beans with their high sugar content.And pairing them with nitrate laced meat by products does not make for a life extending meal.
I do love my hot dogs and beans however.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1065046)

Nathans. Has to be Nathans, or Hebrew National. AND I just learned THAT since moving here.

However my baked beans ARE sweet and generally disappear.

One can Bushes Vegetarian Beans.
1/2 sweet onion minced fine.
Nice squirt of yellow mustard.
Tablespoon (I guess) of Worcestershire sauce.
Teaspoon of vinegar.
Two nasty sounding squirts of catsup.
A generous bunch of brown sugar. Let me guess..A third of a cup?

Cook low and slow for a couple hours...

Serve with potato salad.
One boiled egg for every potato.
Hellmanns mayonnaise.
Lots of SWEET onion.

You can add other things, but that is how I like it.

AND have some Angus beef burgers. On Potato Buns. Martins.

WITH CHEESE. WHITE CHEDDAR.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1065046)

Nathans. Has to be Nathans, or Hebrew National. AND I just learned THAT since moving here.

However my baked beans ARE sweet and generally disappear.

One can Bushes Vegetarian Beans.
1/2 sweet onion minced fine.
Nice squirt of yellow mustard.
Tablespoon (I guess) of Worcestershire sauce.
Teaspoon of vinegar.
Two nasty sounding squirts of catsup.
A generous bunch of brown sugar. Let me guess..A third of a cup?

Cook low and slow for a couple hours...

Serve with potato salad.
One boiled egg for every potato.
Hellmanns mayonnaise.
Lots of SWEET onion.

You can add other things, but that is how I like it.

AND have some Angus beef burgers. On Potato Buns. Martins.

WITH CHEESE. WHITE CHEDDAR.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1065275)

A lot of people rave about Nathans and Hebrew National. I actually prefer the cheapest lightest pink hot dogs I can find.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1065275)

A lot of people rave about Nathans and Hebrew National. I actually prefer the cheapest lightest pink hot dogs I can find.

My mother would occasionally make home made baked beans from scratch. (I'm from Boston so it's almost mandatory). She buy the dried beans and soak them over night. The she'd add onions, spices, pork and molasses and bake them in a clay pot for hours. They were awesome.

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1065278)

My brother used to work for the FDA and inspected food and food plants.

Doc - may I please suggest you start using Hebrew National or Nathan's. I don't need to say anything else.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1065423)

FDA or no FDA, thank you dbussone, for your comment. Doc's comments would go hand-in-hand with Philadelphia Scrapple which I think was made with whatever was swept off the floor.



Me? I prefer to stick with "those who answer to a higher source."

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1065423)

FDA or no FDA, thank you dbussone, for your comment. Doc's comments would go hand-in-hand with Philadelphia Scrapple which I think was made with whatever was swept off the floor.

Me? I prefer to stick with "those who answer to a higher source."

Originally Posted by glgene (Post 1065581)

How about a combo of Velveeta cheese and Mogan David wine?

Not exactly what they would offer at a swanky restaurant?! <g>

Originally Posted by glgene (Post 1065581)

How about a combo of Velveeta cheese and Mogan David wine?

Not exactly what they would offer at a swanky restaurant?! <g>

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1065596)

I'm not a Velveeta fan, but the Morgan David should help.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1065598)

The only thing that bothers me about Velveeta is that a loaf (that term alone is a problem) can remain "fressh" for years, alongside another loaf--of Wonderbread.

But hey, surround a loaf of Velveeta with parsley and put it out for your next party on a pretty tray, some Ritz and a gallon of Mogan David with little Dixie Cups...

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1065602)

The downside of Velveeta can also be a pro. The fact that it can remain fresh for years means that it could be useful in your hurricane emergency food supply. Think about it!

By the way, I like the Dixie cup idea.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1065429)

Our dog has to have Hot Dog Soup because he doesn't drink enough water. I won't even use anything but all natural, no nitrates hot dogs to make it!

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1065638)

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1065663)

Interesting. I found this when researching nitrate free hot dogs.

Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates | Serious Eats

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1065663)

Interesting. I found this when researching nitrate free hot dogs.

Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates | Serious Eats

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1065699)

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1064428)

You Betcha Doug. I think a certain other poster might even agree.

Originally Posted by LuckySevens (Post 1065775)

I LOVE me some bacon, but I am one of those weirdo's that HATES cheese....all cheese! You can all have my share.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1065552)

Scrapple, also known by the Pennsylvania Dutch name panhaas or "pan rabbit," is traditionally a mush of pork scraps and trimmings combined with cornmeal and wheat flour, often buckwheat flour, and spices. The mush is formed into a semi-solid congealed loaf, and slices of the scrapple are then pan-fried before serving.

The terms mush and scraps and trimmings, congealed and pan-fried (presumably in Crisco or lard) all point to something less than appetizing. Unless maybe you grew up eating it. But I'll stick with heart-healthy cheese.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1065781)

Oh, please. Why did you even say that? You'll plant the idea in his head!

Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1065784)

Excellent. What are the top 5 you dislike the most? I'll use those (maybe) for a cocktail party.

Originally Posted by LuckySevens (Post 1065876)

Parmesan

Blue cheese

Camembert

Limburger

cheddar

I haven't tasted of many others but the smell of most cheese turns my stomach. I can take very very light Mozzarella on a pizza which is loaded with strong tasting stuff like pepperoni, bacon, etc. as the meat overpowers the cheese taste. However, I still pick any 'clumps' of the cheese off it.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1065673)

Actually, it says that right on the package. It even lists that the nitrates come from celery. They are naturally occurring, not some chemical addition.

Frankly (ha ha), I wouldn't eat a hotdog, period.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1065931)

And the article states:



I don't think that it's "some chemical". Nitrates are extracted from various food sources and then added to the dogs.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1065996)

It's interesting to read up on this. I have learned a couple of things, among them...

"Sodium nitrate: When cooked or broken down in the stomach, nitrites form nitrosamines, which can cause cancer in young children and pregnant women.

"Spinach, beets, lettuce, celery, parsley, and cabbages are among vegetables with high concentrations of nitrates. The amount is determined by the plant’s genetic age, and the amount of nitrate in the soil. Don’t stop eating these veggies, many of them also contain vitamin C, naturally limiting the formation of the toxic nitrosamines."

What is Cultured Celery Extract? | Eating Real, Being Real

It's a dilemma, but I guess I'd rather have a naturally occurring nitrate in the food then a processed chemical one.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1066002)

I am pretty sure your body doesn't know the difference.

Sometimes those "natural supplement" sites are not too accurate.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1066008)

I guess my point was that the natural foods containing nitrates also contain other nutrients necessary to break down the harmful cancer-causing parts of nitrates that the chemical nitrates do not.

So I would rather have all natural hotdogs with celery juice in them, containing vitamin C, than a hotdog with a manufactured nitrate in it.

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1066029)

For the record, I don't believe that nitrate can be manufactured. It's extracted from certain foods and used as a preservative.

But we're talking about hot dogs here. I think that it would have to be a real stretch to consider any of them to be healthy.