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Barefoot 05-26-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1065663)
Interesting. I found this when researching nitrate free hot dogs.

Cooking with Kids: "Nitrate-Free" Hot Dogs, Now With More Nitrates | Serious Eats


The Nitrate and Nitrite Myth: Another Reason not to Fear Bacon

dbussone 05-26-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1065699)


Not only don't I fear bacon; I LOVE BACON.

CFrance 05-26-2015 03:35 PM

Bacon! BaconBaconBaconBaconBacon! mmmmmmmm!

LuckySevens 05-26-2015 04:50 PM

I LOVE me some bacon, but I am one of those weirdo's that HATES cheese....all cheese! You can all have my share.

Mrs. Robinson 05-26-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1064428)
You Betcha Doug. I think a certain other poster might even agree.

Oh, please. Why did you even say that? You'll plant the idea in his head!

dbussone 05-26-2015 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckySevens (Post 1065775)
I LOVE me some bacon, but I am one of those weirdo's that HATES cheese....all cheese! You can all have my share.

Excellent. What are the top 5 you dislike the most? I'll use those (maybe) for a cocktail party.

Mrs. Robinson 05-26-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1065552)
Scrapple, also known by the Pennsylvania Dutch name panhaas or "pan rabbit," is traditionally a mush of pork scraps and trimmings combined with cornmeal and wheat flour, often buckwheat flour, and spices. The mush is formed into a semi-solid congealed loaf, and slices of the scrapple are then pan-fried before serving.

The terms mush and scraps and trimmings, congealed and pan-fried (presumably in Crisco or lard) all point to something less than appetizing. Unless maybe you grew up eating it. But I'll stick with heart-healthy cheese.

I tried to be polite by saying whatever they swept off the floor, but you're a little too graphic for me.

I think I'm gonna be sick!

dbussone 05-26-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1065781)
Oh, please. Why did you even say that? You'll plant the idea in his head!


Oh oh sorry! I understand.

LuckySevens 05-26-2015 09:21 PM

hate cheese
 
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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1065784)
Excellent. What are the top 5 you dislike the most? I'll use those (maybe) for a cocktail party.

Parmesan
Blue cheese
Camembert
Limburger
cheddar
I haven't tasted of many others but the smell of most cheese turns my stomach. I can take very very light Mozzarella on a pizza which is loaded with strong tasting stuff like pepperoni, bacon, etc. as the meat overpowers the cheese taste. However, I still pick any 'clumps' of the cheese off it.

dbussone 05-27-2015 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckySevens (Post 1065876)
Parmesan

Blue cheese

Camembert

Limburger

cheddar

I haven't tasted of many others but the smell of most cheese turns my stomach. I can take very very light Mozzarella on a pizza which is loaded with strong tasting stuff like pepperoni, bacon, etc. as the meat overpowers the cheese taste. However, I still pick any 'clumps' of the cheese off it.


Sorry you don't get along with cheese. I find cheese and friends go well together. But I'm sure you've found an alternative.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-27-2015 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1065673)
Actually, it says that right on the package. It even lists that the nitrates come from celery. They are naturally occurring, not some chemical addition.

Frankly (ha ha), I wouldn't eat a hotdog, period.

And the article states:

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the nitrites naturally occurring in celery juice are exactly the same as the pure sodium nitrite added by sausage makers.
I don't think that it's "some chemical". Nitrates are extracted from various food sources and then added to the dogs.

graciegirl 05-27-2015 08:25 AM

Back to cheese.

I remember a bag of dripping cheese hanging on the clothesline in Columbus, Ohio MANY years ago when I was a kid.

Schmear Case?

We ate all kinds of organ meet back then. It is only if you THINK about it.

We are blessed to have plenty and able to make choices.

CFrance 05-27-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1065931)
And the article states:



I don't think that it's "some chemical". Nitrates are extracted from various food sources and then added to the dogs.

It's interesting to read up on this. I have learned a couple of things, among them...

"Sodium nitrate: When cooked or broken down in the stomach, nitrites form nitrosamines, which can cause cancer in young children and pregnant women.

"Spinach, beets, lettuce, celery, parsley, and cabbages are among vegetables with high concentrations of nitrates. The amount is determined by the plant’s genetic age, and the amount of nitrate in the soil. Don’t stop eating these veggies, many of them also contain vitamin C, naturally limiting the formation of the toxic nitrosamines."

What is Cultured Celery Extract? | Eating Real, Being Real

It's a dilemma, but I guess I'd rather have a naturally occurring nitrate in the food then a processed chemical one.

graciegirl 05-27-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1065996)
It's interesting to read up on this. I have learned a couple of things, among them...

"Sodium nitrate: When cooked or broken down in the stomach, nitrites form nitrosamines, which can cause cancer in young children and pregnant women.

"Spinach, beets, lettuce, celery, parsley, and cabbages are among vegetables with high concentrations of nitrates. The amount is determined by the plant’s genetic age, and the amount of nitrate in the soil. Don’t stop eating these veggies, many of them also contain vitamin C, naturally limiting the formation of the toxic nitrosamines."

What is Cultured Celery Extract? | Eating Real, Being Real

It's a dilemma, but I guess I'd rather have a naturally occurring nitrate in the food then a processed chemical one.

I am pretty sure your body doesn't know the difference.

Sometimes those "natural supplement" sites are not too accurate.

CFrance 05-27-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1066002)
I am pretty sure your body doesn't know the difference.

Sometimes those "natural supplement" sites are not too accurate.

I guess my point was that the natural foods containing nitrates also contain other nutrients necessary to break down the harmful cancer-causing parts of nitrates that the chemical nitrates do not.

So I would rather have all natural hotdogs with celery juice in them, containing vitamin C, than a hotdog with a manufactured nitrate in it.


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