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coffeebean 05-21-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1768576)
Masks provide SOME protection from other people, when you are wearing it, compared to wearing no mask at all.

How much? The jury's still out. If I was just getting over a cold, or was feeling a little fatigued or stressed from life - then I'd feel a lot more comfortable wearing a mask in public than not wearing one, for my own safety. I'd know that I'm not "at risk" enough to have to isolate myself away from the world, but not "tip top" enough to not have any concerns.

You can be cautiously optimistic with a mask on.

And just FYI: I don't wear my mask outside in open air, unless I'm where there are a lot of other people also not wearing masks. I carry one in my pocketbook all the time now so if I feel uncomfortable, I can put it on. I also wear it at work, even outside, because it's required when I'm on the clock.

Efficiency of masks plummet when there are gaps between the mask and the face. Most mask wearers I've seen have large gaps between their face and the mask. Because of these gaps, the wearer of the mask is not protected very much at all. Having said that, if the wearer of a mask with gaps around their face speaks, coughs or sneezes, that mask will still prevent most of the droplets from entering the air around them. Droplets are propelled forward and at least the loose fitting mask is in front of the nose and mouth.

Bay Kid 05-23-2020 08:21 AM

For most people mask give false hope. One thing we have learned is most people can be controlled.

swooner 05-23-2020 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1751157)
During a golf cart ride, something occurred that prompted me to do a little research. We were passing through a section of the multi-modal path where we were alone....no one was visible in front of us and no one had passed us going the opposite direction for some time. We both detected the strong smell of aftershave. I recognized the scent because I have a friend who uses too much of it daily. We had our masks around our necks and pulled them up to cover our faces. We could still smell the aftershave for some time as we drove along.

When I got home I did some research. The particle size of the airborne perfumes is between 30 and 150 micrometers. The particle size of the COVID-19 virus is 70-90 nanometers...a nanometer is 1000 times smaller than a micrometer.

I draw two conclusions:
1. Airborne particles can hang around for a decent amount of time
2. If I can smell perfumes through my mask, I can also inhale
COVID-19 particles through it.

Note: I have never assumed that the mask is protecting me, but might be protecting others, but there are many who feel bulletproof while wearing homemade masks.

Imagine how much worse it would be with no mask like some of the idiots shopping at our grocery stores.

Nucky 05-23-2020 08:22 PM

I followed the direction of a trusted friend and Dr. on TOTV'S who's advice coincided with my Primary Dr. and the Pulmonologist I see in Leesburg. Funny how three Doctors who don't know one another all had the same advice. I follow their advice perfectly. I think listening to your Doctor may be better than listening to some other sources. Good Luck!

xhippee 05-24-2020 06:31 AM

People: Please toss your silly masks and gloves in the trash. This has been the most devastating over reaction in our history. Don't drink the Koolaid.

billethkid 05-24-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1768452)
Are you wearing a mask to protect others when you can not be guaranteed to keep your distance from people? I have a feeling most people out and about who are wearing masks believe the masks are protecting them. They have no clue they are not really protected but they are protecting people around them. I also have a sinking feeling that if these same people were aware that the mask they wear is not protecting them, they would not wear a mask at all. That is the sad part.

A very simple message that far too many just do not get.

Especially the inconsiderate folks who need to announce why they will not......all the wrong reasons of course.

ColdNoMore 05-24-2020 04:54 PM

Not wearing a mask does not prove how tough you are, it simply proves that you couldn't care less...for anyone but yourself.

Schaumburger 05-27-2020 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xhippee (Post 1770001)
People: Please toss your silly masks and gloves in the trash. This has been the most devastating over reaction in our history. Don't drink the Koolaid.

Don't plan on applying for my job with my employer. My production coworkers have been wearing masks for about 8 weeks now. Among approximaely 380 production workers -- one plant in upstate NY, one plant in central Iowa -- only 1 production employee has tested positive for COVID-19 as of 5/27/2020.

My office coworkers (myself included) will return to work in the office 2 days a week starting June 3. Each employee will work in the office 2 days a week and works from home 3 days a week. Only about 1/3 of the employees will be in the office on any workday. Each employee is assigned which days they will be in the office. No deviation is allowed from the assigned work in the office vs. work from home schedule.

Each office employee will wear a mask when they are away from their desk, upon entering the office and upon exiting the office. If an employee is working at their desk, the mask does not have to be worn.

Disposable masks are provided by my employer, or employees may wear a cloth mask brought from home.

If an employee does not want to adhere to my employer's mask policy while working in the office or in the plant, they are free to quit and join the ranks of the 36 million+ unemployed in the U.S.

I am glad my employer has this policy. And I wear a mask while shopping or anywhere I cannot maintain social distancing. But then again, I am just a stupid sheep.

coffeebean 05-28-2020 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xhippee (Post 1770001)
People: Please toss your silly masks and gloves in the trash. This has been the most devastating over reaction in our history. Don't drink the Koolaid.

We have reached 100,000 deaths in the US. Is that milestone an over reaction?

coffeebean 05-28-2020 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1751157)
During a golf cart ride, something occurred that prompted me to do a little research. We were passing through a section of the multi-modal path where we were alone....no one was visible in front of us and no one had passed us going the opposite direction for some time. We both detected the strong smell of aftershave. I recognized the scent because I have a friend who uses too much of it daily. We had our masks around our necks and pulled them up to cover our faces. We could still smell the aftershave for some time as we drove along.

When I got home I did some research. The particle size of the airborne perfumes is between 30 and 150 micrometers. The particle size of the COVID-19 virus is 70-90 nanometers...a nanometer is 1000 times smaller than a micrometer.

I draw two conclusions:
1. Airborne particles can hang around for a decent amount of time
2. If I can smell perfumes through my mask, I can also inhale
COVID-19 particles through it.

Note: I have never assumed that the mask is protecting me, but might be protecting others, but there are many who feel bulletproof while wearing homemade masks.

I was in a small Sprint store the other day, wearing my home made mask. I was in there about 40 minutes when I took my mask off my nose for about 15 seconds. I then was able to smell a very strong odor of some type of cleaner. I was told by the Sprint rep that the odor is sanitizer. When I put my mask back on the odor was again undetectable to me.

I make my mask out of Bounty paper towel, a 2" piece of printer paper, one tissue, rubber bands and staples. It takes me about one minute to make this mask and it is disposable. I'm quite impressed with the way it functions and fits snugly against my face. The fit is the same for my husband. This mask was designed by a physician. If you are curious, here is an instructional video of how to assemble this mask..........

2 Minute 5 Layer 3D No-Sew Paper Towel Face Mask #Masks4all - YouTube

cheweycat 05-28-2020 06:17 AM

You mask is protecting others.
 
If you sneeze or cough the mask is a barrier to virus spread. Your mask says I respect you in that I am attempting to place a barrier to spittle propulsion. The flip side is you respect me by wearing a mask. Very simple, I don't know what the issue is with those who don't wear masks!

ColdNoMore 05-28-2020 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cheweycat (Post 1772105)
If you sneeze or cough the mask is a barrier to virus spread. Your mask says I respect you in that I am attempting to place a barrier to spittle propulsion. The flip side is you respect me by wearing a mask.

Exactly.


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Originally Posted by cheweycat (Post 1772105)
Very simple, I don't know what the issue is with those who don't wear masks!

I do. :ohdear:

Lindsyburnsy 05-28-2020 10:32 AM

The masks also help prevent droplets from sneezing or coughing getting onto someone else. Seatbelts aren’t 100%, but we are still required to wear them. Don’t even get me started on motorcyclists who don’t wear helmets.

Bjeanj 05-28-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xhippee (Post 1770001)
People: Please toss your silly masks and gloves in the trash. This has been the most devastating over reaction in our history. Don't drink the Koolaid.

Why do you care what others do, one way or the other?

Joe V. 05-28-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 1772431)
Why do you care what others do, one way or the other?

People can do as they want. Just do not preach to me in public if I do as you do not want. Especially if it is LEGAL.


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