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Joe C. 05-20-2020 08:09 AM
FINALLY !!!!! Someone with some common sense. Of course a virus can be inhaled through a mask. The only thing IMHO that a mask can do, is help block the spittle in close quarters with others. For me, wearing a mask is useless as far as protection is concerned.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-20-2020 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1768255)
FINALLY !!!!! Someone with some common sense. Of course a virus can be inhaled through a mask. The only think IMHO that a mask can do, is help block the spittle in close quarters with others. For me, wearing a mask is useless as far as protection is concerned.
For you, a mask is not useless. And yes a virus can get through a mask. But it is a LOT more difficult for a virus to pass through a mask than it is to pass through the air with no barrier at all.

It is MUCH more likely that a virus will get to the mask, and just stop and get stuck on the outside of the mask, and not get through, than it is to pass through.

Masks are not useless. They are useful. They might not be as useful as staying home in a sterile, isolated room, but they are absolutely useful.

Joe C. 05-20-2020 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1768299)
For you, a mask is not useless. And yes a virus can get through a mask. But it is a LOT more difficult for a virus to pass through a mask than it is to pass through the air with no barrier at all.

It is MUCH more likely that a virus will get to the mask, and just stop and get stuck on the outside of the mask, and not get through, than it is to pass through.

Masks are not useless. They are useful. They might not be as useful as staying home in a sterile, isolated room, but they are absolutely useful.
Kind of like using chicken wire to keep out mosquitoes.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-20-2020 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1768428)
Kind of like using chicken wire to keep out mosquitoes.
More like using an old metal collander to drain angel hair pasta. Some of them are gonna end up in the sink no matter how gently you dump the pasta in the bowl. But most of them will not.

coffeebean 05-20-2020 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1768199)
How do you protect the eyes?
Funny you ask that question. When this pandemic first emerged here in America, I was trying on my cloth mask that my neighbor was giving out. I put on the mask then put on my gardening goggles which protect not only my eyes but the sides of my face too. My husband took one look at me and told me people would laugh at me if I wore that get up in public. Of course, I have never worn the goggles in public but I always have that option.

I wear eye glasses so I would hope that anyone who wears eye glasses is protected somewhat from direct flying droplets into the eyes.

As an aside..........I saw a photo on on a Humor thread on a website of someone shopping in a grocery store with a completely covering the head gas mask and a HAZMAT suit. I have a feeling the photo was staged but it was hilarious to see this guy pushing a shopping cart in the grocery store.

coffeebean 05-20-2020 01:45 PM
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coffeebean 05-20-2020 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 1768255)
FINALLY !!!!! Someone with some common sense. Of course a virus can be inhaled through a mask. The only thing IMHO that a mask can do, is help block the spittle in close quarters with others. For me, wearing a mask is useless as far as protection is concerned.
Are you wearing a mask to protect others when you can not be guaranteed to keep your distance from people? I have a feeling most people out and about who are wearing masks believe the masks are protecting them. They have no clue they are not really protected but they are protecting people around them. I also have a sinking feeling that if these same people were aware that the mask they wear is not protecting them, they would not wear a mask at all. That is the sad part.

fdpaq0580 05-20-2020 04:08 PM
Complaining continues.
 
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1761107)
What a mask does or does not do can get repeated everyday and the next day......repeat.

As long as wearing a mask is recommended, there will always be a question.

If they were a mandated/law, rule, requirement with enforcement (at least in the beginning)....there would not be the questioning.

Complaining would continue, but with a mask on.
Sadly, there will always be those that flaunt laws and rules. As was mentioned the other day, someone was in an urgent care facility and the worker escorting them had her mask dangling from one ear. When asked why she was not wearing a mask, her reply was, "I am wearing a mask". I would love to know if she was trying to be cute, snarky or just being a smart a$$. And in a medical facility.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-20-2020 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1768452)
Are you wearing a mask to protect others when you can not be guaranteed to keep your distance from people? I have a feeling most people out and about who are wearing masks believe the masks are protecting them. They have no clue they are not really protected but they are protecting people around them. I also have a sinking feeling that if these same people were aware that the mask they wear is not protecting them, they would not wear a mask at all. That is the sad part.
Masks provide SOME protection from other people, when you are wearing it, compared to wearing no mask at all.

How much? The jury's still out. If I was just getting over a cold, or was feeling a little fatigued or stressed from life - then I'd feel a lot more comfortable wearing a mask in public than not wearing one, for my own safety. I'd know that I'm not "at risk" enough to have to isolate myself away from the world, but not "tip top" enough to not have any concerns.

You can be cautiously optimistic with a mask on.

And just FYI: I don't wear my mask outside in open air, unless I'm where there are a lot of other people also not wearing masks. I carry one in my pocketbook all the time now so if I feel uncomfortable, I can put it on. I also wear it at work, even outside, because it's required when I'm on the clock.

Velvet 05-20-2020 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1768199)
How do you protect the eyes?
Glasses. Sunglasses outside and clear glasses inside. There are driving glasses for no glare etc for all kinds of conditions. There are clear work glasses to keep out dust, sawdust etc I use them in the kitchen and swim googles keep the strongest garlic or onion from making me weep.

coffeebean 05-21-2020 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1768576)
Masks provide SOME protection from other people, when you are wearing it, compared to wearing no mask at all.

How much? The jury's still out. If I was just getting over a cold, or was feeling a little fatigued or stressed from life - then I'd feel a lot more comfortable wearing a mask in public than not wearing one, for my own safety. I'd know that I'm not "at risk" enough to have to isolate myself away from the world, but not "tip top" enough to not have any concerns.

You can be cautiously optimistic with a mask on.

And just FYI: I don't wear my mask outside in open air, unless I'm where there are a lot of other people also not wearing masks. I carry one in my pocketbook all the time now so if I feel uncomfortable, I can put it on. I also wear it at work, even outside, because it's required when I'm on the clock.
Efficiency of masks plummet when there are gaps between the mask and the face. Most mask wearers I've seen have large gaps between their face and the mask. Because of these gaps, the wearer of the mask is not protected very much at all. Having said that, if the wearer of a mask with gaps around their face speaks, coughs or sneezes, that mask will still prevent most of the droplets from entering the air around them. Droplets are propelled forward and at least the loose fitting mask is in front of the nose and mouth.

Bay Kid 05-23-2020 08:21 AM
For most people mask give false hope. One thing we have learned is most people can be controlled.

swooner 05-23-2020 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1751157)
During a golf cart ride, something occurred that prompted me to do a little research. We were passing through a section of the multi-modal path where we were alone....no one was visible in front of us and no one had passed us going the opposite direction for some time. We both detected the strong smell of aftershave. I recognized the scent because I have a friend who uses too much of it daily. We had our masks around our necks and pulled them up to cover our faces. We could still smell the aftershave for some time as we drove along.

When I got home I did some research. The particle size of the airborne perfumes is between 30 and 150 micrometers. The particle size of the COVID-19 virus is 70-90 nanometers...a nanometer is 1000 times smaller than a micrometer.

I draw two conclusions:
1. Airborne particles can hang around for a decent amount of time
2. If I can smell perfumes through my mask, I can also inhale
COVID-19 particles through it.

Note: I have never assumed that the mask is protecting me, but might be protecting others, but there are many who feel bulletproof while wearing homemade masks.
Imagine how much worse it would be with no mask like some of the idiots shopping at our grocery stores.

Nucky 05-23-2020 08:22 PM
I followed the direction of a trusted friend and Dr. on TOTV'S who's advice coincided with my Primary Dr. and the Pulmonologist I see in Leesburg. Funny how three Doctors who don't know one another all had the same advice. I follow their advice perfectly. I think listening to your Doctor may be better than listening to some other sources. Good Luck!

xhippee 05-24-2020 06:31 AM
People: Please toss your silly masks and gloves in the trash. This has been the most devastating over reaction in our history. Don't drink the Koolaid.


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