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Villages PL 12-13-2012 03:53 PM

Good Dietary Rules:
 
There could be exceptions to the following, meaning those whose liver produces too much cholesterol and those who have too few cholesterol recepters in their body.

Dietary Rules:

Part I: As your consumption of animal protein goes up, LDL cholesterol goes up, even if the protein is lean or non-fat.

Part II: As your consumption of unprocessed plant-food goes up, LDL cholesterol goes down.

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If you have metabolic syndrome you will know it by the fat around your waist.

About sugar and other processed foods: These foods cause inflammation which sets the stage for disease.

"The China Study" revealed a high correlation between cholesterol and disease. Those with low cholesterol had the least amount of all diseases such as cancer and heart trouble.

Some people will have to work at keeping their cholesterol at a good level and some will find it relatively easy. Those who find it difficult can find things to blame that are beyond their control but I believe the overwhelming majority of people can do it without drugs if they put forth the effort.

Today there are way too many people on cholesterol lowering drugs because it represents the easy way out. For the patient it's easier than changing one's lifestyle. And for the doctor it's easier than trying to "enforce" a lifestyle change. That's assuming he/she knows exactly what needs to be done. It's much easier and safer for a doctor to write a prescription. Doctors will (correctly) look at a patient (without a prescription) as a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Note: I doubt that it's absolutely necessary to be tested for large and small particles of cholesterol.

cathyw 12-13-2012 05:05 PM

Great movie ! I definitely encourage people to go to Jimbo's showing, if possible.
The discussion afterwards should be very interesting.
If you can't make it, the movie is available on Netflix.

Villages PL 12-15-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cathyw (Post 594058)
Great movie ! I definitely encourage people to go to Jimbo's showing, if possible.
The discussion afterwards should be very interesting.
If you can't make it, the movie is available on Netflix.

What impact did it have on you? Did it inspire you to make some changes in your diet? What was it that you liked best about the movie?

shcisamax 12-15-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 594005)
Note: I doubt that it's absolutely necessary to be tested for large and small particles of cholesterol.

It may not be absolutely necessary but it might reduce the concern if you find the big particles outweigh the small particles.

Villages PL 12-15-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shcisamax (Post 595017)
It may not be absolutely necessary but it might reduce the concern if you find the big particles outweigh the small particles.

It's certainly interesting enough that I have put the book ("The Great Cholesterol Con") on my reading list. Who knows, after reading it, I might want to get tested.

One thing I wonder: If a person gets tested and finds out they have the wrong size particles, what would they be told to do about it? I believe the advice would be to eat a healthier diet.

graciegirl 12-15-2012 04:55 PM

My dietary belief is this...and not for weight loss...
 
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shcisamax 12-15-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 595026)
It's certainly interesting enough that I have put the book ("The Great Cholesterol Con") on my reading list. Who knows, after reading it, I might want to get tested.

One thing I wonder: If a person gets tested and finds out they have the wrong size particles, what would they be told to do about it? I believe the advice would be to eat a healthier diet.

Yes but if they were told their particles were big fluffy beautiful ones, they might be inclined to HAVE THAT LITTLE PIECE OF CHEESE THEY HAVEN'T EATEN IN FIVE MONTHS. :)

jimbo2012 12-15-2012 07:22 PM

The difference in large v small is one of the two (can't recall which at the moment) is more likely to cause blockages, therefore, consideration of blood thinners may suggested by your Dr......like asprin or Plavix etc.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 12-15-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 595164)
The difference in large v small is one of the two (can't recall which at the moment) is more likely to cause blockages, therefore, consideration of blood thinners may suggested by your Dr......like asprin or Plavix etc.

The small particles can easily imbed themselves under the scale like plates that line the arteries. The largest particles cannot fit under the scales so they don't cause blockages.


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