Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 566087)

I didn't post the link of real-life experiences as a reply to your request for scientific studies, nor was it to prove that any home remedies like copper bracelets work!

I posted it because it is interesting to hear the perspectives of actual people who've lived it and described other likely factors that play a part in the whole picture......but nobody really knows for sure.

To me, if veganism definitively prevented breast cancer then all the oncologists, surgeons, cancer researchers, nurses, etc. would be doing it, because they or their wives/mothers/daughters/sisters get as much of it as anyone else.

Contrary to what some "wannabe doctors" think, all these medical clinicians and researchers are not "out to hide" simple, natural, inexpensive remedies against cancer because they just want to make money from current, standard treatment regimens. They have a vested interest in prevention and cure because just like everyone else, the incidence is 1 of every 8 women gets breast cancer, which translates to affecting almost every family over 2-3 generations.

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 566064)

Some vegetarians eat eggs: They are called ovo-vegetarian.

Some eat dairy but exclude eggs: They are called Lacto-vegetarians.

Some eat dairy and eggs and are called lacto-ovo vegetarians.

It's a lot different than being vegan. Vegans, a type of vegetarian, don't eat any animal products at all.

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 566087)

I didn't post the link of real-life experiences as a reply to your request for scientific studies, nor was it to prove that any home remedies like copper bracelets work!

I posted it because it is interesting to hear the perspectives of actual people who've lived it and described other likely factors that play a part in the whole picture......but nobody really knows for sure.

To me, if veganism definitively prevented breast cancer then all the oncologists, surgeons, cancer researchers, nurses, etc. would be doing it, because they or their wives/mothers/daughters/sisters get as much of it as anyone else.

Contrary to what some "wannabe doctors" think, all these medical clinicians and researchers are not "out to hide" simple, natural, inexpensive remedies against cancer because they just want to make money from current, standard treatment regimens. They have a vested interest in prevention and cure because just like everyone else, the incidence is 1 of every 8 women gets breast cancer, which translates to affecting almost every family over 2-3 generations.

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 566100)

Not for us to eat, nor are our teeth.

Our anatomy and physiology are those of natural plant-eaters. Human canine teeth are small and blunt, and we have flat molars for grinding up plant fibers. Look at a dog's or a cat's teeth and you'll see something quite different: long, pointed canine teeth for catching prey and tearing the hide and sharp-edged teeth in the back for shearing off chunks of flesh. Humans have hands that are useful for gathering vegetables and fruits but aren't that good for killing and ripping skin and flesh. Natural carnivores (like cats) and omnivores (like bears) have claws that they use to grasp and tear at their prey.

Humans are not designed to easily digest meat. Natural meat-eaters swallow their meat raw after no or minimal chewing, relying on their highly acidic stomach juices to break down the meat and kill the bacteria that cause food poisoning. We chew our food thoroughly, and we have a carbohydrate-digesting enzyme in our saliva to start the digestive process, just as other herbivores do. Without the stomach acidity that carnivores and omnivores have, we are forced to cook our meat to avoid the risk of food poisoning. Like all herbivores, we have a long intestinal tract, which is necessary for the proper digestion of the cellulose in plants. Carnivores and omnivores have shorter intestines, which are designed to quickly digest meat before it begins to rot.

Mrs. Jimbo

Originally Posted by chalcedony (Post 566156)

I agree. Vegans do not eat meat at all and I think that is unhealthy. Vegans are missing important sources for HDL "good" cholesterol that help reduce the amount of LDL "bad" cholesterol in the body. They may have lower risk for cancer but they can be at greater risk also for heart diseases and other disorders. We need cholesterol in our body for our cells to function properly.

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 565959)

There are a variety of real-life experiences posted here at this link, by breast cancer patients.....

Breast Cancer Topic: were you vegan/vegetarian/organic before you diagnosis?

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 566071)

Strictly being vagan leads to gastro problems and requires careful planning to be sure you are getting the proper nutrients.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 566434)

Thank Goodness coffee is o.k. because this forum could make me start drinking hard liquor again. ;)

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 566188)

IMO and my doctors I'm healthy and take no meds.

The average vegan cholesterol is 135-145, your body produces it also.

If anything the primary benefit is preventing heart ailments.

Ask Bill Clinton, has he been back for another stint or bypass?

See the book Your last heart attack or the DVD Forks over Knives, you will get a better understanding heart disease and diet.

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Originally Posted by chalcedony (Post 566722)

, there is a concern that there can be deficiency in vitamin B12 and omega-3 fatty acids which are found mostly in fish sources.
Good sources of omega-3 fatty acids are some fatty
fish, such as salmon, tuna, and mackerel.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 566434)

Thank Goodness coffee is o.k. because this forum could make me start drinking hard liquor again. ;)

Originally Posted by BarryRX (Post 565950)

Very interesting, but besides the statements made by the people you mentioned, is there a study in a reputable journal that I can read that shows that vegetarians get less breast cancer than non-vegetarians?