Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   Medical and Health Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/medical-health-discussion-94/)
-   -   Effects after covid shots (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/medical-health-discussion-94/effects-after-covid-shots-321676/)

Bay Kid 07-24-2021 06:20 AM

Just curious? Does anyone question where this virus started? God didn't create this. Who is responsible?

Bill14564 07-24-2021 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1977663)
Just curious? Does anyone question where this virus started? God didn't create this. Who is responsible?

If you have the inside knowledge to say that God didn't create this then you must already know who did so why ask here?

This thread is about the after effects of the vaccine; you should start another thread to troll in.

JMintzer 07-24-2021 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1977554)
Tinnitus has also been reported as a side effect of the vaccine

My tinnitus is a result of Jimmy Page and Led Zeppelin, back in '74...

Tommyc6 07-25-2021 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 1977614)
Sorry to hear about your wife's reaction. Interestingly enough my 42 yr old niece caught COVID and now suffers from the same issues (HTN). She had never before suffered from any blood pressure issues until after she caught the virus. Now HUGE swings in her blood pressure.

Just to be sure there’s no blockage causing her HB she had a cardiac catheter procedure done, no blockage we firmly believe it’s from the vaccine.

Bay Kid 07-25-2021 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1977690)
If you have the inside knowledge to say that God didn't create this then you must already know who did so why ask here?

This thread is about the after effects of the vaccine; you should start another thread to troll in.

Sorry. I didn't know you were in charge. I talk with God everyday.

Boomer 07-25-2021 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommyc6 (Post 1973531)
Wife had annual physical, ekg etc weeks prior to J&J vaccine her blood pressure as usual was a tad low, ekg was normal, she is now under the care of a cardiologist for high blood pressure.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommyc6 (Post 1978100)
Just to be sure there’s no blockage causing her HB she had a cardiac catheter procedure done, no blockage we firmly believe it’s from the vaccine.


Tommyc6,

I am not a doctor, but if what I am about to say is totally off the wall, there are doctors on this site who will be glad to let me know if I am wrong.

A heart cath is a relatively, sort of, semi-big deal procedure, not usually used if high blood pressure is the only symptom. If there are other heart symptoms like some shortness of breath or a murmur, the doc would order an echo. An echo can look at heart valves. For some things, a Holter monitor might be ordered. But I am surprised at the heart cath for high bp only.

Although I have been vaccinated and believe that in the analysis of risk vs. benefit of the vaccine, benefit wins for almost all adults, I am not trying to be sarcastic. I am seriously trying to help with what I am about to write. . .

Sometimes hypertension shows up in times of stress or ongoing anxiety. For some people, it is only the systolic that elevates. It could be that being in a state of worry about having had the vaccine and perhaps even dwelling on the constant chaos that is created by our access to 24/7 media could actually be the culprit in new onset hypertension.

May I suggest a calming approach. Enjoy the liberation that the vaccine can provide. Turn off the screens — except for movies or series that are just for entertainment. Listen to music. Take a walk. Do things that are fun. Spend good time with each other.

The doc has probably prescribed at least one medicine and will monitor to see if a second one needs to be added. There probably has been the standard medical advice to try cutting back on salt — including and especially the high sodium that can be difficult to avoid in restaurant food, especially in chain restaurants.

The mind can affect blood pressure. As an example, I can be prone to “white coat syndrome.” My systolic blood pressure can hit the range of hypertension when taken at the beginning of a doctor-visit. I figured this out a long time ago and started asking for it to be taken again at the end of the visit — when it dropped. My bp will elevate before medical tests, too. Worrying about medical things can send me on a head-trip and elevate my bp. That is just a snapshot of me as a lab rat to illustrate how emotions can affect bp in just the short time of a doc visit or test. Your wife’s high bp is ongoing though, not just in the doc’s office, but it could also be indicating an emotional component, like anxiety, leading to ongoing stress.

Anyway, I hope you will help your wife to calm down about blaming the vaccine. If you are both looking for constant validation that the vaccine is to be blamed, you, of course, will find it because we live in a time where we can find some kind of validation for just about anything we have convinced ourselves to believe.

In addition to following the routine medical guidelines for the treatment of hypertension, you might need to step away from the chaos caused by the screens that can take up so much of people’s days and nights. The constant pounding of negative emotions is the stock-in-trade of those who are making a lot of money keeping Americans all wound up.

Please do everything the two of you can to come at this hypertension from every angle that is within your own control, in addition to medical treatment. Hypertension can feed on itself if emotions like anxiety are part of the cause. I wish her all the best.

Boomer

.

bgamble3 07-25-2021 02:51 PM

Why you should not get vaccinated. Listen to this lawyer if interested.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1973570)
No problems.
Disappointed at the overall low % vaccinated.


Trial lawyer Dr Reiner Fuellmich outlines the Covid crimes against humanity

CFrance 07-25-2021 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgamble3 (Post 1978384)

As usual, there is another side of the story on this guy. Perhaps OBB knows more.


Reiner Fuellmich Fact Checked and Exposed as a Covid Conspiracy Con | Medika Life

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-25-2021 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1978397)
As usual, there is another side of the story on this guy. Perhaps OBB knows more.


Reiner Fuellmich Fact Checked and Exposed as a Covid Conspiracy Con | Medika Life

So, going down the google rabbit hole, I find very little. Other than his youtube account, he seems to be absolutely no one. No one has ever heard of him. He's a ghost without even a wikipedia page or Linkdin account. He doesn't have a website for himself OR his business (which is supposedly under his own name) and there's nothing that provides his office phone number or hours of business. He claims to be a hugely successful trial lawyer who specializes in fraudulent corporations, and lists Volkswagen among those fraudulent corporations.

That should be the end of the conversation, actually. Volkswagon a fraudulent corporation? Really? Are you SURE? Because last I heard - they were - and still are - a successful legitimate corporation.

Supposedly he's held a legal practice in the USA "for the past 26 years now." He is one of four members of a group calling themselves the German Corona Investigative Committee, something Germany doesn't seem to have on record as even existing.

Most of his bios are identical from website to website, or borrow heavily from each other. In most, he's referred to as just a lawyer, but then there's that Dr. tossed in front of his name from time to time, with no explanation of where he received his doctorate, and what kind of doctorate it is.

No mention of his marital status, legal place of residence, net worth, or even a website to advertise for clients. He has no known physical office where he does business, that is published anywhere on the internet.

Pretty sure this is just some rando german conspiracy nutcase who posts videos on youtube. Oh and a few of his videos were removed by YouTube for violating their policies and standards.

stanley 07-25-2021 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1978411)
Oh and a few of his videos were removed by YouTube for violating their policies and standards.

Yep......pretty much standard practice for youtube, facebook, twitter, et al....
removing stuff that violates their "terms of agreement".
Can't make this sh.t up!

Bay Kid 07-26-2021 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1978425)
Yep......pretty much standard practice for youtube, facebook, twitter, et al....
removing stuff that violates their "terms of agreement".
Can't make this sh.t up!

Kind of like Germany in the past. Only say, think and listen to what I say.

GrumpyOldMan 07-26-2021 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1978425)
Yep......pretty much standard practice for youtube, facebook, twitter, et al....
removing stuff that violates their "terms of agreement".
Can't make this sh.t up!

It is called capitalism..

stanley 07-26-2021 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1978597)
It is called capitalism..

If you feel good calling it that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-26-2021 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1978425)
Yep......pretty much standard practice for youtube, facebook, twitter, et al....
removing stuff that violates their "terms of agreement".
Can't make this sh.t up!

Standard practice for this forum too. You agreed to abide by it when you made your account.

If you don't like the rules of something you AGREED to obey, you have a couple of options:

You can try to petition for change...
You can accept that you'll continually be monitored, moderated, and/or kicked out of the community...
You can voluntarily leave the community.

Terms of service/terms of agreement are like deed restrictions.

The people in charge oversee the property - whether physical or in virtual cyberspace. They call the shots, and you agree to them doing so the moment you click the "I agree" button while creating your account.

It's THEIR business, not yours. They have every right to tell you to get lost if they don't like how you play in THEIR sandbox.

stanley 07-26-2021 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1978603)
Standard practice for this forum too. You agreed to abide by it when you made your account.

If you don't like the rules of something you AGREED to obey, you have a couple of options:

You can try to petition for change...
You can accept that you'll continually be monitored, moderated, and/or kicked out of the community...
You can voluntarily leave the community.

Terms of service/terms of agreement are like deed restrictions.

The people in charge oversee the property - whether physical or in virtual cyberspace. They call the shots, and you agree to them doing so the moment you click the "I agree" button while creating your account.

It's THEIR business, not yours. They have every right to tell you to get lost if they don't like how you play in THEIR sandbox.

DUH! :ohdear: That's all well and good until they censor to give one sided information.
Just like the MSM who are the whores of.........................................

PugMom 07-26-2021 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1977663)
Just curious? Does anyone question where this virus started? God didn't create this. Who is responsible?

i can only provide you with my own crackpot theory: virus was created in a lab doing bio-weapons research. since biowarfare is technically looked down upon, no one wants to confirm such activity. this is why so many countries, including ours, were involved in funding this lab. :boxing2:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-26-2021 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1978607)
DUH! :ohdear: That all well and good until they censor to give one sided information.
Just like the MSM who are the whores of.........................................

And again, you have the right to opt out at any time.

stanley 07-26-2021 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1978609)
And again, you have the right to opt out at any time.

Again...DUH!

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.

drducat 07-26-2021 10:01 AM

Asking a vaccinated person about the side effects from the covid jab is like asking a drunk if they did anything stupid the night before......

drducat 07-26-2021 10:14 AM

Since when is the government allowed to own patents???

Vaccine patent gives US ‘leverage’ over manufacturers




Several companies have licensed the ’070 patent for their vaccines and pay the US government royalties, including Germany’s BioNTech, which developed its Covid-19 jab with Pfizer. According to several observers, Moderna has not licensed the patent and the US government has not enforced its rights."


Subscribe to read | Financial Times

Bill14564 07-26-2021 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drducat (Post 1978628)
Since when is the government allowed to own patents???

Vaccine patent gives US ‘leverage’ over manufacturers




Several companies have licensed the ’070 patent for their vaccines and pay the US government royalties, including Germany’s BioNTech, which developed its Covid-19 jab with Pfizer. According to several observers, Moderna has not licensed the patent and the US government has not enforced its rights."


Subscribe to read | Financial Times

Try this link

According to this Patent Office link, at least as early as 1969.

GrumpyOldMan 07-26-2021 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1978508)
Kind of like Germany in the past. Only say, think and listen to what I say.

No, not at all like Germany of the "past". That was Fascism. This is CAPITALISM. Companies are not told what to do by the government now/here - in this case. Companies get to decide how they run themselves. You get to decide who you want to give your money to. Amazing system, too bad so many people, hate capitalism.

GrumpyOldMan 07-26-2021 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1978599)
If you feel good calling it that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

It's not me calling it that, that is the actual definition. Word does have actual meanings.

The government stepping in to tell a company runs itself is either socialism or fascism depending on how the government does it.

stanley 07-26-2021 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1978636)

The government stepping in to tell a company runs itself is either socialism or fascism depending on how the government does it.

No you're getting it.

Justus 07-26-2021 10:46 AM

No, it's NOT Capitalism...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1978597)
It is called capitalism..

It's not Capitalism...it's Restraint of Trade! And that is illegal! Sadly, not many of us are still extant who remember The Iron Curtain, and Radio Free Europe's brave attempts to get news and information to those millions of people behind it. Those people were starved of real facts and information by ruthless government control and censorship of all media. The only information that was allowed to reach its citizens was communist propaganda. As children, we donated our allowance moneys to Radio Free Europe, in order that our counterparts in communist countries could hear what was happening in the outside world!

That's what this country is headed for if the avenues of free speech are cut off by the MSM, in tandem and possibly in collusion with, biased internet monopolies. If the Federal Government is in any way complicit in this censorship, then it is also a clear violation of our First Amendment! As an aside...what are they all afraid of?

Bill14564 07-26-2021 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justus (Post 1978640)
...

That's what this country is headed for if the avenues of free speech are cut off by the MSM, in tandem and possibly in collusion with, biased internet monopolies. If the Federal Government is in any way complicit in this censorship, then it is also a clear violation of our First Amendment! As an aside...what are they all afraid of?

They are afraid that many more people will die because they believed the conspiracy theories, anti-vaxxers and snake oil salesmen... and they are right.

Now, whether the correct response is to block and remove posts or simply label them as misinformation is another question.

drducat 07-26-2021 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1978633)
Try this link

According to this Patent Office link, at least as early as 1969.

But............They don't follow this:faint:

"Under the Patent and Trademark Law Amendments Act of 1980 (commonly known as the Bayh-Dole Act), patents granted on inventions developed with the use of government funds can be exclusively licensed to promote their commercialization, but the government retains the ability to 'march in" if the patented technology is not made available to the public on reasonable terms."

Justus 07-26-2021 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1978644)
They are afraid that many more people will die because they believed the conspiracy theories, anti-vaxxers and snake oil salesmen... and they are right.

Now, whether the correct response is to block and remove posts or simply label them as misinformation is another question.

How about, 'this is a free country and let people decide their own destinies'. There seems to be a lot of cognitive dissonance among "vaxxers" since significantly more negative information has come out about the vaccines. Certainly smells like fear. A year ago, I and other posters were attacked on this forum for suggesting we should reach a natural herd immunity. I still hold that belief, but it's a little late now...

Bill14564 07-26-2021 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justus (Post 1978646)
How about, 'this is a free country and let people decide their own destinies'. There seems to be a lot of cognitive dissonance among "vaxxers" since significantly more negative information has come out about the vaccines. Certainly smells like fear. A year ago, I and other posters were attacked on this forum for suggesting we should reach a natural herd immunity. I still hold that belief, but it's a little late now...

Just what is this "significantly more negative information?"

Completely natural herd immunity is now impossible, of course, since 186+ million now have immunity by way of vaccination. However, there is still a ways to go, only a few hundred thousand more dead will get us there. How many are you and other posters willing to sacrifice?

MrFlorida 07-26-2021 12:01 PM

No effects yet, but that 3rd eye really helps me see much better.....


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:55 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.