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Cybersprings 09-12-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2255777)
If you insist, but why do you want to dig yourself an even deeper hole?

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golfing eagles 09-12-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2255780)
I was trying to be humorous and get along.
I am sorry that got missed in translation.
As far as digging an even deeper hole, same request for you as MM: you have a lot of content in this thread to use, please point to any statement(s) I made that were not 100% accurate.
I will wait....

So was I :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

margaretmattson 09-12-2023 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2255764)
I never once argued with his point regarding what the person should do.
I never thought nor in any way claimed that I was an expert.
Since I hijacked the thread, you have lots of content to use. Please point out a single statement I made that was not 100 % correct.
I will wait....

I read the entire thread. There were several people who argued with GE. My post is a general statement that is not directed to anyone specific. My ideology is this: Dont trust what you read on the internet when your life is in danger. I can see hundreds of ways that can go wrong. Go to a medical doctor and get a MEDICAL diagnosis.

Cybersprings 09-12-2023 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2255783)
So was I :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

In that case, my apologies. I will delete my previous post.
I hope you are feeling better Doc.

golfing eagles 09-12-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2255794)
In that case, my apologies. I will delete my previous post.
I hope you are feeling better Doc.

No need---this is simply play time, nothing serious going on except for medical content.

Cybersprings 09-12-2023 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2255789)
I read the entire thread. There were several people who argued with GE. My post is a general statement that is not directed to anyone specific. My ideology is this: Dont trust what you read on the internet when your life is in danger. I can see hundreds of ways that can go wrong. Go to a medical doctor and get a MEDICAL diagnosis.

I agree with your ideology 100% (not that that really makes a difference).

Not sure the OP's life is in danger, but your point is still valid.

No one else argued with GE. Lots of people posted their experiences and some recommendations, but from reading them, those with recommendations hadn't appeared to have read the whole thread before posting, which is very often the case and is not intended to insult them (many people just want to jump in and help, and didn't know the Doc had already laid out an excellent recommendation).
So, really the only person your post could have reasonably applied to is me. I argued in many posts with him (never about his advice).
So again, I ask for any thing I said that was not 100% accurate.
If you cannot provide any example, your post to which I responded has no value and is just plain wrong. If you want to say something along the lines of "I wish people would stop nitpicking statements people/experts make when their primary point is so on target" then I would have to drop my head and take my lumps. Or "some people should read the entire thread before providing recommendations because an expert may have already provided the right answer, that would be reasonable (but would not apply to the people who gave personal experience without providing recommendations).

But to insinuate that I or anyone else claimed to be an expert and argued with the expert and got anything wrong would be complete non-sense, at least as far as this thread goes.

margaretmattson 09-12-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2255798)
I agree with your ideology 100% (not that that really makes a difference).

Not sure the OP's life is in danger, but your point is still valid.

No one else argued with GE. Lots of people posted their experiences and some recommendations, but from reading them, those with recommendations hadn't appeared to have read the whole thread before posting, which is very often the case and is not intended to insult them (many people just want to jump in and help, and didn't know the Doc had already laid out an excellent recommendation).
So, really the only person your post could have reasonably applied to is me. I argued in many posts with him (never about his advice).
So again, I ask for any thing I said that was not 100% accurate.
If you cannot provide any example, your post to which I responded has no value and is just plain wrong. If you want to say something along the lines of "I wish people would stop nitpicking statements people/experts make when their primary point is so on target" then I would have to drop my head and take my lumps. Or "some people should read the entire thread before providing recommendations because an expert may have already provided the right answer, that would be reasonable (but would not apply to the people who gave personal experience without providing recommendations).

But to insinuate that I or anyone else claimed to be an expert and argued with the expert and got anything wrong would be complete non-sense, at least as far as this thread goes.

I will be more careful in the wording of my posts. I only meant to make a general statement (As explained above) I never meant harm.

Cybersprings 09-12-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2255799)
I will be more careful in the wording of my posts. I only meant to make a general statement (As explained above) I never meant harm.

Thanks for your post. No real (or otherwise) harm was done. As the Doc said in his post, nothing serious is really going on here.
I apologize that my post came across so snarky.

scooterstang 09-12-2023 09:43 AM

While in the service. I went to the base pool that had a 3 miter diving board. I was in the middle of a back flip when I heard my last name called out and dumb me cranked my head towards the voice, and Bam my right ear hit the water flat and busted my tympanic membrane. I was in terrible pain and things were super loud. I went to Wilford hall medical clinic in San Antonio and they diagnosed my issue. They said the membrane would grow back but there would be scar tissue and most likely I would loose a lot of hearing in that ear! I might also get vertigo real bad. I have only had vertigo a few times since then but I am super glad that it is not a more regular thing because it puts you down and is the worse feeling. I have never heard of the Epley proceedure before today(guess back in 78 it wasn't a thing)

Aviva 09-12-2023 10:13 AM

Vestibular physiotherapist
 
It took me awhile to get to the right type of specialist to find me the right person to treat vertigo. A vestibular physiotherapist is trained to assess your inner ear organs with positional testing which puts your head in different angles to try reproduce your vertigo while carefully noting the related nystagmus or patterns of eye reflexes.
I have Left Particle Vetigo so for me the Epley Maneuver works wonders. I know there are ways to do it yourself but I prefer the Vestibular Physiotherapist do it while he is monitoring my eyes so he can know the particles have moved away. Its been a game changer for me.

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Originally Posted by hawk1021 (Post 2255116)
My Husband suffers from dizziness constantly someone said something about the Epley Maneuver. Has anyone done this before ? Did it work ? and if so can you recommend a doctor down here in the villages area.


bp243 09-12-2023 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2255523)
No offense, and I'm really not looking for a p!$$!ng match, but please point out a statement that is "categorically wrong". Some may be exaggerations to make a point, but overall they are accurate. You cannot hunt for rare exceptions and hold that up as a standard. I think I have been pretty consistent---I acknowledged referring patients to chiropractors and other ancillary services when appropriate, but pretty harshly warn against getting evaluated by those fringe practitioners first. Sorry if I ruffle some feathers, but the public sometimes just doesn't "get it". There are a lot of quacks and snake oil salesmen out there, and if I can do some small part to protect the innocent, I'm going to take it.

As far as "having a degree and being retired" goes, I think my career is a bit more than that. For all anyone knows, when they play Dr. Google they may be quoting me from the content that I myself have written. When they need inpatient medical care, they may be receiving treatment under protocols that I have written. So, consider it arrogant if you will, but I feel obligated to utilize my extensive knowledge to benefit others, within certain constraints of law and ethics. And yes, sometimes I get overzealous.

Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and, in particular, your compassion for helping others. Your thoughts are appreciated. My vertigo issues occur when tracking movement over an extended period like scrolling on the Internet or watching a video with lots of movement. Is that something that I live with or is there a specialist to recommend who might best evaluate that issue?


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