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Taltarzac725 09-04-2025 09:40 AM

Diseases spread when people who have them infect you. I would go with established science as to whether or not I trust parents to make the best choice for other people in schools, restaurants, museums, concert halls, churches, stores, gyms, skating rinks, roller rinks, airports, airplanes, buses, cars, bathrooms, brothels, amusement parks, fairs, stadiums, dog parks, gun ranges, zoos, pools, pickleball courts, tennis courts, Disney World, and whatever I forgot. Oh, forgot one of the most important for teens--prom sites.


I put in brothels as I recall a wrestling coach in Reno, Nevada got into trouble when he took his winning team to Mustang Ranch for a reward for their winning. The ladies at brothels probably are very up-to-date on their vaccinations. Las Vegas gets an awful lot of visitors as do the Florida theme parks. Probably some of the same ones.

Bill14564 09-04-2025 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2458866)
Analytically, it’s like a famous person claiming everyone should go green, then hopping in their own private jet to pump millions of pounds of carbon into our atmosphere for just their benefit and traveling on to their next engagement. “Do as I say, not as I do.”

You have that exactly backwards.

You have people who have been protected all their lives now deciding that stepping on a rusty nail is no big deal. (or taking a risk with measles, polio, mumps, .....). "Don't do as I have done, go play Russian Roulette."

fdpaq0580 09-04-2025 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2458861)
Just because you run with scissors doesn't mean you'll trip and fall and stab yourself but it is sure to increase the odds.

The possibility is also there that you could trip and fall and stab someone else. This is why vaccines help not only the vaccinated but others they come in contact with.

Normal 09-04-2025 09:48 AM

Drama
 
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Originally Posted by kingofbeer (Post 2458867)
Many unvaccinated children in Florida will die

Just a little over the top on that one. Why not say millions or even billions? Many will die not wearing seatbelts too.

fdpaq0580 09-04-2025 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2458856)
Vaccines protect you, not others. Go get yourself boosted.

If you get vaccinated, you are less likely to get the disease and, therefore, less likely to infect others.

fdpaq0580 09-04-2025 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2458850)
I have not researched it, but how many vaccines did someone born in the late 1950's receive. I remember eating a sugar cube for polio, a shot for smallpox and years later one for tetanus.

Were their others at that time?

I'm sure there were. Knowledge expands with time. Medical knowledge improves with time. Ignorance and fear (and selfishness) are reasons people avoid vaccines. Jmho.

Taltarzac725 09-04-2025 10:13 AM

It does sound like a celebration of stupidity. Except in this case it might result in more people dying because you insisted on being stupid.

fdpaq0580 09-04-2025 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2458865)
You can't get a driver's license without taking a test.

From what I've seen out there in the world, there are plenty of parents who shouldn't have a Driver's License and surely shouldn't be allowed to have children.

Agree!

Bill14564 09-04-2025 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2458873)
Just a little over the top on that one. Why not say millions or even billions? Many will die not wearing seatbelts too.

Not over the top at all.

Millions or even billions would be over the top, particularly since the population of the entire US is less than one billion.

"Many will die not wearing seatbelts too." So are you arguing *for* vaccinations to help save lives or are you arguing that seatbelts should not be mandatory even though they are proven to save lives?

fdpaq0580 09-04-2025 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2458866)
Analytically, it’s like a famous person claiming everyone should go green, then hopping in their own private jet to pump millions of pounds of carbon into our atmosphere for just their benefit and traveling on to their next engagement. “Do as I say, not as I do.”

What is the "it's" in your statement?

Topspinmo 09-04-2025 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2458857)
That path leads to some dangerous destinations.

For ones not vaccinated? If not then why get vaccinated if not going to protect you? Covid vaccines are prime example now with all deaths possible side effect even years after vaccine. As with most vaccines only small percentage has major problems. Some don’t want take the risk just like whether get lightning rods or not? weight the risk factor? I also notice children seem to have a lot more health problems nowadays? Whether if from side effects of vaccines or not something causing this?

Topspinmo 09-04-2025 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2458870)
Diseases spread when people who have them infect you. I would go with established science as to whether or not I trust parents to make the best choice for other people in schools, restaurants, museums, concert halls, churches, stores, gyms, skating rinks, roller rinks, airports, airplanes, buses, cars, bathrooms, brothels, amusement parks, fairs, stadiums, dog parks, gun ranges, zoos, pools, pickleball courts, tennis courts, Disney World, and whatever I forgot. Oh, forgot one of the most important for teens--prom sites.


I put in brothels as I recall a wrestling coach in Reno, Nevada got into trouble when he took his winning team to Mustang Ranch for a reward for their winning. The ladies at brothels probably are very up-to-date on their vaccinations. Las Vegas gets an awful lot of visitors as do the Florida theme parks. Probably some of the same ones.

Doesn’t the vaccinated have protection? If not why? Measles was eradicated in US. Why all sudden pop back up and why wasn’t vaccinated protected? two sides to every coin?

Topspinmo 09-04-2025 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2458880)
Not over the top at all.

Millions or even billions would be over the top, particularly since the population of the entire US is less than one billion.

"Many will die not wearing seatbelts too." So are you arguing *for* vaccinations to help save lives or are you arguing that seatbelts should not be mandatory even though they are proven to save lives?

Mandatory anything not going to be 100%.

Bill14564 09-04-2025 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2458889)
Mandatory anything not going to be 100%.

Voluntary anything will be even less.

Velvet 09-04-2025 10:45 AM

As a previous school teacher, I would say, it is a possible disaster to allow an unvaccinated child among other unvaccinated children. The ones vaccinated should be (somewhat) protected. I understand the desire to save money at all costs to distribute it where it is deemed better served. I think taking it out on children is not a good idea. As for parental decision. Yes, most parents want the best for their children, and I respect that. But what about the children of ignorant parents? Do we protect the innocent children or the right of the ignorant parent to possibly hurt their child and other children?


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