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Barefoot 12-06-2015 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1154647)
Hospital employees are given shots in October. Hospital reminds us flu season lasts till march, and we need to take precautions. I am an opt out for flu shot.

Hey retired doctors ....
For those who opt out of the flu shot, is Tamiflu after the fact effective?

golfing eagles 12-06-2015 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1154949)
Your employee did NOT have GBS. GBS is a peripheral nerve disorder producing weakness to in some cases paralysis but does not damage the central nervous system and does not produce seizures. A GBS patient does not have sudden events from which he recovers over an hour only to repeat similar events again. Here is a link to what is the actual presentation of GBS and its typical and atypical outcomes.

Guillain-Barré Syndrome Fact Sheet

So I will go out on a very strong limb in stating that your employee did not get GBS from a flu shot.

Couldn't agree more. GBS is essentially an ascending motor paralysis, usually mild to moderate in severity and almost always self limited but could take months to resolve. It is a form of AIDP (acute idiopathic demyelinating polyradiculopathy), in some ways similar to the chronic form (CIDP), but resolves. The chances of getting GBS from a flu shot, especially a dead viral strain, are infinitesimal. There were people who contracted GBS after the swine flu vaccine, since the first batch of that vaccine was live attenuated, but quite rare. On the other hand, your chances of getting GBS after the having the flu (or any viral illness) are much higher. GET YOUR SHOT!!!!
Taking Tamiflu after the fact is not a viable alternative, it's kind of like going to traffic school AFTER you accumulated a bunch of tickets---it may fix your license, but you had to go through the pain.

rubicon 12-06-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1147291)
If a flu shot only lasts three months, why do they put them out in September?

Hi CFrance: I just happened on your response this PM 12/6/15. I went back and looked at my post and said the flu shot has an efficacy of three months. I should have explained what i meant and that is it begins to lose its potency. since the flu season goes beyond the holidays, my wife and I choose to get innoculated mid-to late October to extend a more effective period when the flu season is likely to begin.

Personal Best Regards:

lightworker888 12-07-2015 08:13 AM

FYI- Flu prevention
 
For anyone that is interested, we take the homeopathic Influenzinum once in October and again January as a prophylactic JIC dose. Have done this for years and have never had the "flu". Can't even remember having a bad "cold". We also do our best to keep our immune system up with various supplements. If I feel anything coming I will up my Vit C ( I make lipo C - you can google how and why) and take Astragalus Root capsules which you can get at The Vitamin Shoppe. It is an antiviral and antibacterial herb that is used in Traditional Chinese Medicine. Just a personal perspective on the flu shot.

Also eat organic and grass fed and gluten free, at home and whenever possible. I believe we are what we eat and we can use good food as medicine. The challenge is to find it. BTW the Lucky Lady Eggs at The Fresh Market are THE BEST TASTING eggs we have ever eaten. They are pasture raised, non-GMO eggs that unfortunately we can't get in Canada because of our winters. Wish they could keep. I'd bring them back with me!!

Wishing everyone a Happy and Healthy Holiday Season and New Year,


LW888

OhioBuckeye 12-08-2015 10:55 AM

OhioBuckeye
 
Geez, I hope flu shots don't have serious side effects & they're going to keep us in the dark about it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was govt. thing to get rid of some of us. Nothing would surprise me! If it does have serious side effects why do the Drs. keep pushing flu shots, then, are they in on the big secret.

CFrance 12-08-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1155995)
Geez, I hope flu shots don't have serious side effects & they're going to keep us in the dark about it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was govt. thing to get rid of some of us. Nothing would surprise me! If it does have serious side effects why do the Drs. keep pushing flu shots, then, are they in on the big secret.

Read post #42 and the post it is quoting. I am thankful that there are knowledgeable people on this forum who can dispel hysteria caused by hyped-up rumors and unproven, privately made-up theories... So-and-so had a flu shot and then got (fill in the blank).

Opmoochler 12-08-2015 06:22 PM

My opinion: if you sleep well, eat healthily, exercise, and take plenty of vit D to keep your immune system strong, there is no need to introduce viruses (dead or alive) via the flu shot.We have been brainwashed by Big Pharma.

big guy 12-08-2015 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by glennm (Post 1146976)
I was planning to get my annual flu shot last week, but stopped when I found out two neighbors contracted Gullian-Barre Syndrome (GBS) within last two weeks. One DIED, the other was sent to ICU and is now in 6 months of Rehab to repair the sheath protecting the nerves. Side effect (GBS) destroys myelin sheath covering protecting the nerves.
My Humana nurse said she has seen this only twice in ten years; however, I have seen it twice in The Villages in one week.
The flu shot is produced by several different pharmaceutical companies. Is there a particular strain which is more deadly than others this year?
Seniors are recommended to get the "high-dose" version. Is that the one causing the side effect?
Is anyone else familiar with a friend or family member contracting this serious side effect this year?

Yes, I had a friend who contracted GBS after a flu shot but she had a cold when she got the shot and they told her that the cold on top of the flu shot was the culprit. It was not this year but she is the only person that I know of that got GBS. She was hospitalized within a day after the onset of symptoms. I can't remember what the treatment was but it seemed unusual when I heard about it. She lived and was OK but tired quickly.

graciegirl 12-08-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Opmoochler (Post 1156183)
My opinion: if you sleep well, eat healthily, exercise, and take plenty of vit D to keep your immune system strong, there is no need to introduce viruses (dead or alive) via the flu shot.We have been brainwashed by Big Pharma.

Yeah, but your army of protectors haven't met THIS kind of flu before. Why not get it some assault rifles? Why be half safe?

big guy 12-08-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sable99 (Post 1154710)
I never heard of the high dosage flu shot until this thread. What is the difference? When do you get the high dosage? I asked my 91 year old mother if she got the high dosage shot and she hadn't heard of it either!

I got both the flu shot and the adult pneumonia shot this week. No side affects with the flu shot. The arm that got the pneumonia shot has been sore all week but no other side affects.

My arm that received the pneumonia shot was very sore as well. I was a little concerned but it gradually went away.

PennBF 12-09-2015 12:32 PM

What?
 
Blueash, you may want to relookd at possible side effects of Swine flu shot and GBS. He was examined by some very top Doctors at significant hospitals in NY City and we had a Dr. talk to my Organization on the effects of GBS and what to expect. He would on the span of a minute talk off the wall and thentart to lose control of his kidneys and drop to the floor. We would help him
up, let him rest for awhile and on the advise of medical did not let him drive home but rather take him home for the day.
Unless you have had the terrible opportunity of seeing the effects of GBS I am not sure you have a full understanding of its impact on the body and mind. :pray:

graciegirl 12-09-2015 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1156450)
Blueash, you may want to relookd at possible side effects of Swine flu shot and GBS. He was examined by some very top Doctors at significant hospitals in NY City and we had a Dr. talk to my Organization on the effects of GBS and what to expect. He would on the span of a minute talk off the wall and thentart to lose control of his kidneys and drop to the floor. We would help him
up, let him rest for awhile and on the advise of medical did not let him drive home but rather take him home for the day.
Unless you have had the terrible opportunity of seeing the effects of GBS I am not sure you have a full understanding of its impact on the body and mind. :pray:


Penn. I know for a fact that two of the posters on this thread are M.D.s, one retired a few months back and one still practicing. The one still practicing is held in high regard in my home city of Cincinnati and I myself am completely confident of his ability, his skill and his ethics. I don't agree with his politics sometimes, but these two are licensed and credible as hell. You have challenged one of them.


I am not a medical anything but I pay attention and I have kept a couple of kids and a husband alive with my Dr. Mom stuff. I think that there is nothing in this world that doesn't carry a risk and that we need to investigate that risk from credible sources and from folks that have had a lot of education on that subject, and then do what our common sense tells us.


Me and mine are flu shotted.

Jimturner 12-09-2015 02:26 PM

We have gotten flu shots for many years. I get the old fart double dose. I have an allergic reaction every time. It makes a red spot on my arm at the injection site.

PennBF 12-09-2015 05:53 PM

Please..Please
 
Please take time to read the notes before responding and answering one that you obviously did not read before responding or did read and just didn't want to or did not understand. I never suggested NOT GETTING A FLU SHOT and in fact in one of the 2 notes I sent I mentioned that we had received them in the past and were deciding if to get one this year! What I did describe was the terrible after effects one of my employee's received from the Swine Flu shot and it was GBS as diagnosed by a couple of Dr's in major Medical Clinics in Mass and NYC. Nobody doubts the skills of some MD's and the confidence some patients have in them. And am happy there may be a couple of Dr's on TOTV's but I am not sure what that means in these posts.:sigh:


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