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I didn't say it wasn't good for you.......I said it didn't work for everyone.
Jim Fixx is a case in point.

Yes, I meant the aforementioned folks as you call them.

I just went to wikipedia to double check my spelling of Jim Fix. You are correct, it should be Fixx......interesting article, which I'm sure you've seen as well...........

If you had continued reading the wikipedia article, you would have seen it mentioned that he was pre disposed to heart disease. In his favor, he did make an attempt at switching to a healthier lifestyle from the cigarette smoking, etc. etc.

Again, with "some people" that I have known and that I have seen what they eat, and refuse to eat, at various get togethers and from what their wives would tell me, it really didn't matter one iota what they "GAVE UP" AS THEY STILL DIED OF CANCER........and it wasn't necessarily the extreme exercising that caused it..........it was in their genetics. Nuff said.

p.s. It doesn't say how tall he was. I know a lot of men who are well over six feet tall who weigh around that and are not obese. It would depend on his height and bone structure. The cigarettes obviously are a no no.........in more ways than one.




Jim Fixx

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James Fuller Fixx (April 23, 1932 – July 20, 1984) was the author of the 1977 best-selling book, The Complete Book of Running. Best known as Jim Fixx, he is credited with helping start America's fitness revolution, popularizing the sport of running and demonstrating the health benefits of regular jogging.
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• 1 Life and work
• 2 Death
• 3 Works
• 4 Videos
• 5 References in popular culture
• 6 See also
• 7 References
• 8 External links

Life and work

Born in New York City, Fixx was a graduate of Trinity School in New York and Oberlin College in Ohio. His father, Calvin Fixx, was an editor at TIME who worked with Whittaker Chambers.[1]
Fixx was a member of the high-IQ club, Mensa,[2] and published three collections of puzzles: Games for the Super-Intelligent, More Games for the Super-Intelligent, and Solve It! The back flap of his first book says: "... He spent his time running on the roads and trails near his home, training for the Boston Marathon."
Fixx started running in 1967 at age 35. He weighed 240 pounds (110 kg) and smoked two packs of cigarettes per day. Ten years later, when his book, Complete Book of Running (which spent 11 weeks at No. 1 on the best-seller list) was published, he was 60 pounds (27 kg) lighter and smoke-free. In his books and on television talk shows, he extolled the benefits of physical exercise and how it considerably increased the average life expectancy.
The cover of his book, The Complete Book of Running, featured Fixx's muscular legs against a red cover. The book sold over a million copies.
In 1980 Fixx wrote a follow up book titled Jim Fixx's Second Book of Running: The Companion Volume to The Complete Book of Running.
In 1982 Fixx published Jackpot!, the story of what happened after the publication of The Complete Book of Running when he experienced the "Great American Fame Machine", becoming richer and more celebrated than he could have imagined. In one account he noted an experience of being on a television show with George Harrison, and noticed that Harrison was not sitting down in the "green" room. Upon inquiry Harrison said that sitting down wrinkles the pants. He had become a guru of the running boom.
Maximum Sports Performance, published posthumously, discusses the physical and psychological benefits of running and other sports, including increased self-esteem, acquiring a "high" from running, and being able to cope better with pressure and tension.
Death

On July 20, 1984, Fixx died at age 52 of a fulminant heart attack, after his daily run on Vermont Route 15 in Hardwick. The autopsy revealed that atherosclerosis had blocked one coronary artery 95%, a second 85%, and a third 70%.[3] Although there were opponents of Fixx's beliefs[who?] who said this was evidence that running was harmful, medical opinion continued to uphold the link between exercise and longevity.[4] In 1986 exercise physiologist, Kenneth Cooper, published an inventory of the risk factors that might have contributed to Fixx's death.[5] Granted access to his medical records and autopsy, and after interviewing his friends and family, Cooper concluded that Fixx was genetically predisposed (his father died of a heart attack at age 43 and Fixx himself had a congenitally enlarged heart), and had several lifestyle issues. Fixx was a heavy smoker prior to beginning running at age 36, he had a stressful occupation, he had undergone a second divorce, and his weight before he took up running had ballooned to 220 pounds (100 kg).[6]
A carved granite monument — a book with an inscription to Jim Fixx from the people of Northeast Scotland — now stands in Hardwick Memorial Park in Hardwick, Vermont.[7]

Interesting bio Senior Citizen and a good example of how emotional stress might have been at the bottom of the "cause" regardless of his diet and exercise. We know from Dr. Bruce Lipton that genetics can be an issue that can be "reversed?" if the belief and attitude is recognized and responded to in a proactive "I can do this" and an "I'm OK" kind of way. The challenge is to recognize the presence of any subconscious programs that are afraid to buy into a new belief. We usually have some vested interest in hanging on to old beliefs and habits. That is why listening to our body works well if we can "hear" it, as the messages are coming from the non-logical part and so we have to go to a trusting place that may or may not be able to be explained....yet!

LW888

Well, that's a bit strange because I didn't exactly come away with the same message that you did from Dr. Bruce Lipton. Of course things like being stress free, happy and well nurtured are important. But it's not by far the cure all for everything. So I think it's a little misleading to make it sound that way.

I don't believe he said that genes can be reversed. If I'm not mistaken, he said that genes for disease need to be turned on by something in the persons lifestyle/environment in order to cause disease. He actually downplayed the role of genes by saying that genes don't do very much other than carry a blueprint for the duplication of cells

As far as running: Running can be stressful for those people who tend to think that if something is good then more is better. So they increase their speed and duration to the point of stimulating harmful hormones like cortisol. They, in effect, bring on the very thing they were trying to avoid: A heart attack. (Not long ago I read that running is bad for the heart muscle but I don't remember the details. If I can remember where I read it, I'll tell more about it later.)

I guess using the word "reversed" in brackets wasn't the way to explain what I meant. We are on the same page in essence I think as I interpreted Dr. Lipton to mean that we are not "doomed" by our genetics but in fact can influence our own makeup so that we are not a "victim" to the presence of a particular gene.

The emotional "work" is one of the major pieces that helps us to "change" the outcome so that the gene doesn't get "triggered". or put into play. He is a supporter, I believe, of EFT and similar emotional tools and talks about their importance in helping to shift beliefs.

I remember one trainer telling us that beliefs are only as strong as you choose to make them. They are ideas that we repeat to ourselves and then se sort for their confirmation in the "real world" and as we do that they get bigger and stronger and soon become the foundation stones that we build our conclusions upon.

And we forget that we may have gotten them through our history, our life experience, our teachers etc etc. and that in essence we are channeling them rather than deciding for ourself what we really want to believe and what we want to build our life experience around.

Golly this is getting heavy. Sorry about that. Take what you want and forget about the rest.

LW888

+1.

Thanks; good post. I only have his book to go by.

The key phrase is: attempting to do everything right Attempting to do everything right doesn't mean that he did everything right.


The key phrase here is: no doubt also ate well That's an assumption on your part. People often make wrong assumptions about the diets of healthy looking athletes. My best friend is an athlete who claims to practice moderation and eats a lot of processed foods.


Life will indeed be short for those whose lifestyle lacks a sense of direction other than following a philosophy of "moderation".

All of our days are numbered? Seems like I got it right when I said: Faith-based predetermination. It's all based on anecdotes, assumptions and faith, and nothing of genuine substance.

I've read Pretikin and Dean Ornish many years ago, followed their diet and had good results. Only after slipping away from their diet did I have problems such as clogged Cardiod arteries, triple bypass surgery, etc. I've never heard of Esselstyn but will look for his book.
What sticks in my mind is one of the above authors described what kind of body we have. Out teeth are not like carnivores, but are grinders that are common in plant and nut eaters. Out intestines are very long, not like carnivores that are very short and have very strong digestive juices. In short, we are not built like meat eaters.

Les,
Dr. E was the head of cardiac surgery his work is sooo on point for you.

Get the book, but the DVD Forks over Knives will really get you thinking.

Get both on Amazon.

I have a friend that had surgery on his carotids two years ago. I got him going on this diet last May in February he went in for ultrasound of his carotids as he does on an annual follow up.

The other 3 arteries opened up about 15%, BP normal no meds for it or his high cholesterol which is now <150 if I recall.

His vascular surgeon was taken back by his results.


I agree!

It cannot be reversed in all cases, believe me....no matter what this doctor says. I have read, over the years, all of Dean Ornish's books as well.

My dad, who was born as one of a set of twin boys, had a congenital heart ailment since birth; the other twin died at birth.

My father was lean, ate no junk food, walked everywhere and still died at age 68. My mom always said he was on borrowed time. She died at 91, surviving three husbands.

All of my dad's siblings lived into their 90's, his mom to 95, etc., etc.

Again, back then, they did not do heart surgery, etc. and the most he was on was digitalis......many minor heart attacks and many many minor strokes.

I'm well educated in the entire holistic and natural healing field.........

I've seen perfectly HAPPY WHOLESOME with "everything to live for" young women die in the past few years of the aggressive form of breast cancer.

Highly educated women who raised their own organic veggies, did everything right..........again, it ran in their families. They had the best of care..........and left a slew of little children motherless.

Again, I will say that I believe it is not so cut and dried.

Not everyone can remain healthy eating healthy food.

These people were not despondant and not "NEGATIVE" but were intelligent college professors, teachers, etc. and young moms.

They had everything to live for and led a wholesome life in a wholesome state away from pollution..........it was in their D.N.A.

Now, perhaps birth control pills set off the cancer cells............
That's been kept pretty hush hush although I have read quite a bit.......

I'm really against pharmaceuticals more than against food in general.
I think it's unnatural to put all these chemicals in ones body. Nuff said.

I also know people of "great faith" and others with individual belief systems of their own.....who remained positive, and still died of cancer.

It's not a pretty sight to see what radiation and chemo did to these young moms who had been so vibrant and healthy. Chemo is a poison.

If only wishful thinking and "right thoughts" could solve all the illnesses, it would indeed be wonderful.

Sr. Citizen, I certainly didn't mean that changing emotions would "cure" a di-ease, I only wanted to point out how important and powerful our emotional vibration is to the chemical "soup" or internal terrain that provides the environment for disease. The aspects of our life that contribute to the terrain are many and interactive, so food and stress etc etc all play their part. However it has been shown in many ways, that the changing of your responses facilitates the process and can dramatically alter the outcome. That is why things like visualization work so well. Our brain processes actually seen and imagined, the same way. So many of the older "holistic" approaches (eg. TCM & Homeopathy) have very powerful emotional elements that can interpret the body's messages and the correlations are common among the different therapies. That being said, the challenge for me is becoming aware of the different messages and learning to interpret them. But what I have learned from personal and professional experience is that the more we listen to our bodies and our inner voices, the more easily we can put the pieces together and the more accurate and frequent the messages will be. I do believe that the body is continually working towards wellness and is seeking support on all levels. And the more we work to stay in balance in mind/body/spirit then the more easily the body can move along the road to health. Hope that makes some sense.

LW888

I'm not sure that anyone said that it was cut and dried. What's been said is that you should do your best to live the very best lifestyle possible. The better one does at following good rules of nutrition, the more likely it is they will reduce their risk for degenerative diseases. No one ever said there would be a 100% guarantee of success. If someone is born with a heart defect, that's not a degenerative disease of aging and a healthy diet will obviously not cure it. And I don't believe anyone on this board ever said that it would.


Right, but what is the alternative? Eating unhealthy food? As I said above, we should try to follow the very best rules of nutrition to reduce our risk for developing degenerative diseases.

Some people may be born with birth defects for various reasons. Maybe the mother was lacking certain nutrients when she was pregnant. Maybe she smoked, drank alcohol or used drugs. So not everything is D.N.A.

Look at the ingredients of a store bought apple pie. Or presevatives in some meats. They are no less chemicals than some of the chemicals in pharmaceuticals. And fresh vegetables contain lots of good chemicals. I don't like drugs either but let's face it, chemicals are everywhere

Yes, good point. So all this stuff about being happy to solve all of our health problems is somewhat off the mark.

My dad was born in 1899 to Italian immigrant parents.
I assure you his mom did not do drugs and neither did she smoke.

Wine, I would say yes to....as that was part of their culture.
Home made red wine. None of her other living children had heart defects. Just my dad and his twin brother who died at birth.

Actually, she had 16 pregnancies with several sets of twins.
Only seven of those pregnancies resulted in viable births.
They all lived to a ripe old age, including her, to age 95.
Her huband succumbed to influenza in 1915....leaving her a widow to raise the seven children plus three of her little brothers..........(after her own mom died in Italy).

I would say that although she ate a healthful peasant diet which today would be called the Meditteranean Diet (I remember eating at her home), her body was no doubt depleted from all those pregnancies.........

He outlived his "twin" by many years. Funny, but they named both boys the same name...........

The only ones who smoked cigars were the "uncles"..........they all lived to a ripe old age as well as their big sister.

I didn't mean to imply that your grandmother did drugs, smoked or any of that. I was just trying to point out that there are a lot of unknown things that can contribute to health issues other than genes.

My grandparents were Italian immigrants too. So I know a little about some of the things that went on there. If I remember correctly, I believe my father told me that his father used to throw handfulls of DDT around the perimiter of their home to kill fleas and other bugs. They had no idea there could be potential harm to humans. Perhaps, given enough exposure to DDT, a woman could have problems, assuming that this may have been a common practice. I'm just saying it doesn't hurt to stop and consider that we don't know everything that went on back then.

I did a more careful reading of parts of Dr. Bruce Lipton's book today and this is what I came up with (in my own words). When you think your genes control you and you had no input in which genes you inherited, it's likely you will think of yourself as a victim. You will think that aging and disease is beyond your control.

But the truth is that genes can't do anything by themselves. Correlation is not causation. Certain genes may be associated with certain diseases but it's rare that a gene alone can cause disease. Only about 2% of people get disorders based on a single faulty gene. This would be for diseases like cystic fibrosis, beta thalassemia, and Huntington's. Otherwise, genes only become active when triggered by lifestyle or environment. Dr. Bruce Lipton, professor of biology, wants us to know that genes do not control our destiny.

I reread some portions of another book that is all about genes. It's "The Dependent Gene" by David S. Moore, Ph.D. The title itself tells the whole story. Like Dr. Lipton, he also believes that genes alone can't do anything. Even eye and hair color are determined by interactions with the environment.

He uses flower seeds as an example of genes not being able to do anything by themselves: Buy a package of flower seeds. They contain the genes to make flowers. If you leave them in the package, what happens? Nothing happens. They need to be planted in the proper environment. That calls for good soil, the right amount of water and plenty of sun (usually full sun). Try planting them in full shade, poor soil with insuffcient water and see if the genes give you any flowers. Most likely you'll get a stunted plant with little or no flowers at all.

If you are interested in understanding Bruce Lipton's
 

work on the mind and health here is a fabulous link to a Q&A he gave at the EFT 2011 world summit. He clearly explains the understanding behind the beliefs that I have done my best to articulate and I realize that the difficulty in comprehension may be coming from the difference in paradigms that support the different viewpoints. My practice of over 30 years has been based on Quantum Theory and my beliefs and processes stem from that paradigm and Dr. Lipton has explained it very clearly I feel. He answers questions related directly to our health and health management and may help to clarify comments that have been made in this thread and other related ones. Hope some of you will take the opportunity to listen. It really gives much food for thought.

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LW888

Well, Grandma has been vindicated then.

I wasn't saying that my father's condition was caused by his genes. I said he had a congenital birth defect. His relatives lived to ripe old ages.
No doubt it was that her body was depleted from all the pregnancies.

What I've been trying to say all along is that not all health issues can be corrected via diet; in my dad's case,he was born with a congenital heart defect ; it actually kept him out of World War 1 and World War II.

They didn't do corrective surgery in those days; nor did they treat it with stents, drugs, you name it. Actually, he didn't have his first heart attack until I was an older teenager. On his death certificate it says enlarged heart and atherosclerosis which is hardening of the arteries.

I know what he ate and it was very healthy compared to what people eat today. After dinner, an occasional treat was a slice of cantalupe or a peach in season. In the winter he liked a few walnuts or chestnuts.........definitely a tangerine or an orange in the evening. He was thin his entire life.

They didn't do the whoppers and potato chips , etc.
I've no recollection of him eating sweets.........maybe at a wedding.

All food was made from scratch in those days.......not nuked in the microwave.

He had to have a green salad every evening before supper.
No bottled dressings. Plain red wine vinegar mixed with olive oil.....drizzled on, not swimming in the stuff.

Fruit was the dessert of choice. Lots of veggies.......and if you are Italian you know that Italian men can cook........they were taught by their mothers, even if there were a slew of sisters around.

He soaked his own beans for bean soups with escarole.
He did his fresh cod fish with no breading ; just broiled in the oven with a topping of crushed tomatoes and basil, garlic, etc.

They did like their seafood......but it was prepared simply as I recall.
Not deep fried as everyone enjoys it today.

They NEVER ate butter on their peasant breads.

Believe it or not, we never even had PIZZA in our house.
He always said that the American pizza was not the real pizza like Napoli (Naples).....which would be deep dish, probably like Chicago pizza.
My first pizza was as a teen , out with friends, when we'd get a slice at a pizzaria.

He walked all over the city.

In his case, it was a birth defect........as he was told as a young man.
A congenital heart defect.

As far as the genetic testing........it can be incorrect at times.

Case in point: Someone close was tested for the ALB-27 gene and came out POSITIVE. Iritis, ankylosing spondylitis, (back issues), etc. etc.
He claims NOT to have the worse case scenario of any of that.....

A first cousin of his decided to get tested as he was doctoring for years and his back pain was getting worse and worse.........he , on the other hand, tested NEGATIVE for the ALB-27 gene /ankylosing spondylitis/iritis, etc..........whereas his symptoms point to A.S. Go figure. These tests were all done at the hospital.
The cousin finally had to have cauterization done.........he was on heavy duty pain meds and the body was passed around to a myriad of doctors.
His pain was excruciating. Every known modern treatment, short of surgery, was done to his back over several years........nothing worked for long.

Lupus runs in this family as well........with symptoms similar to arthritis.
Lupus is an auto immune disease as you know.

Neither Systemic Lupus nor Discoid Lupus is related to dietary preferences.

I agree with you that healthy foods are the best way to go.
But I do know a lot of people who followed a wonderful lifelong eating plan of healthful foods.........and still died young or got cancer.

Yes, I remember the DDT..........the trucks would actually come down the streets and spray...........also people would spray the screens in the bedrooms.

I also know for a fact that the "early Xrays" did more harm than good to those who were on the receiving end...........

This is what I mean by "it's not that cut and dried" or that simple , as in eating the right foods.

My best childhood friend died of Systemic Lupus at age 39, having been diagnosed at age 19.........her husband called me on New Year's Day to say that she had expired on the examining table when he rushed her to the emergency room. She was on borrowed time from 19 to 39. As children and young adults, she ate very simply.........there were NO JUNK FOODS BACK THEN. Her lupus was not caused nor helped by her food choices.

The Prednisone also did a number on her.......causing psychotic episodes, which they warned about.

I've seen "recent" current friends (now deceased) also get Prednisone in the hospital for various lung diseases.......and end up dead.
Nurses told me that it "sometimes happens" with Prednisone........it's a risk they have to take. These were people late 40's, and 50.

My husband had childhood friends who died of brain tumors....as young teens. Maybe the DDT???? This was before "drive up fast food" places.

p.s.
As far as others who proclaim happy thoughts and a good mindset is the way to go..........(I'm simplifying it here),
how would they explain very young children or teens in the cancer wards today?

If you have had children and grandchildren, you will know that children are the most joyful happy innocent positive creatures around..............

An innocent beautiful baby in a cancer treatment facility? What negative thoughts did that little one have?

I would be more prone to believe firstly that reincarnation** played a role in their illness
...........than I would think that their negative thoughts brought upon their ill fortune.....and disease.
Children are wonderfully happy little people..........who bring joy to everyone around.

**KARMA

And the reason for all of these very long explanations is because you think someone said, "eat a certain diet (perhaps vegan) and you will have a 100% guarantee that you'll live a long healthy life?" The problem is: No one ever said anything like that.

Houston Texans running back Arian Foster is the latest pro athlete to begin eating vegan – eating only plant-based food to the exclusion of meat and dairy.

The exceptional NFL star made the public announcement via his Twitter account on the evening of July 5, 2012 tweeting, “Officially a vegan now. We'll see how this goes. But week one down. So far, so good. Feels wonderful.” Apparently since then, Foster has become a fan of the vegan documentary Forks Over Knives by tweeting just a couple days later on July 7, 2012, “Thank you! And yes I have, great film.
RT @ForksOverKnives: Good luck @ArianFoster w/ ‪#vegan‬ ‪#diet‬! Have you seen Forks Over Knives?”

Foster is the latest professional athlete to publicly announce their change from eating meat and dairy to eating only plant-based foods. It could be the evolution of man or the influence of good science or the explosion of interest in the Engine 2 Diet which has manly men changing over to a healthier way of eating.
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In fact the list of vegan and vegetarian athletes is growing and many are at the top of their game. We wrote a few months ago about Lance Armstrong’s conversion to eating mostly vegan and how it is benefiting him. Brendan Brazier is a professional Ironman triathlete who promotes his Vega superfood powder combination which is vegan and he has had a strong hand in devising its formulation to get the highest quality nutrient dense food available. Keith Holmes is a championship middleweight boxer who credits his eating vegan for being an integral part of his success. Scott Jurek is a Badwater ultramarathoner record holder and even wrote a book about his running and his veganism. No one would mistake Jon Hinds, founder of the Monkey Bar Gym and strength consultant to the NBA and NFL as being a wuss, but he is a hardcore vegan and wouldn’t think of eating any other way to gain the strength or physique he desires. Mike Tyson is another vegan who could knock your lights out and could not be mistaken for the myth vegan men are weak, skinny and without muscle.

The Engine 2 Diet - Overview with Results from the 2nd Medical Study - YouTube
(This video was produced for the publication of the Engine 2 Diet book and covers the basics of the Engine 2 Plant Strong approach. You'll also see some of the amazing results from the 2nd medical study. These results are fairly typical for the 28 day challenge.)



There are hundreds more individuals who make their living by their looks, talents and/or strength who credit their eating vegan as a main component of their overall health. Some do it to help cure their cancer, like Larry Hagman.
Others change over to eating vegan because they view eating animals is repulsive to them. Many do it based on the building science that eating dairy and meat may not be the healthiest way for them to live.

very good info , thanks

Venus Slams Sjogren’s Syndrome going vegan
 

Coming off their fifth Doubles win at Wimbledon, the Williams sisters sat down with “CBS This Morning” on Tuesday. Up for discussion? The success of Venus’ raw vegan diet.

Venus first turned vegan in 2011 to battle chronic fatigue and full-body inflammation caused by the auto-immune disease Sjogren’s Syndrome, and reports that “definitely, changing my diet has made a big difference” in fighting the fatigue “so heavy that sitting in a chair is a huge effort.” She points out wryly, “So, as a professional athlete, if you have fatigue, then that’s tough,” adding that Sjogren’s can also cause “joint pain…issues with your internal systems.”

But going vegan has been far from a mistake for the glowing powerhouse! Her holistic system of nutritional management seems to be succeeding where Western medicine offers little hope.

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Two Cardiologists & One Cardiac Surgeon Who Follow an Esselstyn-Style Plant-Based Diet. What's Their Story and What Health Benefits Have They Seen?

Dr. Katz
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"Why is there so much cardiovascular disease?

There's no question that it's diet related. We're getting fatter, and eating worse than ever before. Colorado is the only state in the nation where less than 20% of the population is obese. In 49 other states, the obesity rate exceeds 20%--and we're not talking about just being overweight. The dietary causes for heart disease & obesity are eating too much fat, too much refined food, not enough fiber, not enough plant protein, and not enough whole foods. 80% of cardiovascular is preventable by diet.

In your opinion, what causes coronary disease--cholesterol or inflammation?

The biggest issue is inflammation of the endothelium--the single layer of cells that line the blood vessels. Animal protein & fats have been shown to be very inflammatory to blood vessels. Both Drs. Caldwell Esselstyn & William Castelli, the lead researcher in the Framingham Study, cite the example of the Nazi occupation of Norway in World War II, when all the livestock in the country was consfiscated, meat & milk consumption dropped, and heart disease deaths plummeted. After the war, when the livestock returned, so did heart disease. On the other hand, those countries with the highest percentage of calories coming from unprocessed plant food also have the lowest incidence of heart disease & cancer.

You recommend "no-added fats" whatsoever for anyone trying to reverse heart disease. What about fish oil?

Yes, no oil whatsoever, including fish oil. Katz gets his omega-3's from ground flaxseed, daily. He seems unconcerned about the issue of conversion of the short-chain omega-3's (ALA) found in flax into the long-chain omega-3's (EPA/DHA) found in fish oil."


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Jimbo, I respect what you say, and your lifestyle. However, for some reason, I find it hard to trust the word of doctors that sell diet books and become media darlings.

Which doctor are you referring to Esseltyn?

A $10 book, I hope not, if that's the case I guess you can't follow any book.

IMHO, Bill Clinton looks well, awful. I thought he was ill. Thin and pale. As I said, it's just my impression. I'm glad to hear he's not sick.

common reaction when you're used to seeing someone that was overweight.

Esselstyn Diet is the most restrictive I've ever seen. I'm convinced it works but have a hard time giving up my Egg Beaters, olive oil for cooking, chicken and fish, and these are not really hugely life threating foods. I've resigned myself to trade off a little of life for enjoying some of the foods I love.
If I was given only a few months to live I would stuff myself with steak, fried foods and cookies.

You're the ideal candidate, your arteries would start to open in as little three weeks.
There are ways to cook without oil, wine, vegetable broth, tomato sauce, you can't deep fry, you have to saute, or very good non stick pan.

If you think Egg Beaters, olive oil for cooking, chicken and fish are not really hugely life threatening foods, over time, fine.
That food put you on the table didn't it?

I can only say is you forgot the ordeal you went thu with bypass and did read the book or see the dvd.

With your condition oil is the most life threatening.
*Oil, it is on the forbidden list of any doctor who I would respect, and for good reason. It compromises the endothelium lining of the blood vessels in so doing plaque develops with blockages, contributes to heart disease, and is the highest calorie density substance on the planet.

I can only lead you to the info that's out there, the rest is your choice.

Thanks
 

Jimbo,

My husband and I watched the video 2 weeks ago. It has given us the inspiration to follow this diet (or attempt to). We have good reason to want it to work. In addition to improving our cardio health, dropping some pounds could only help our joints. We've followed what we thought was a heart healthy diet for years, but neither of us feel a lot better. So far so good since we cut out the meat. We have worked on making sure we are getting enough protein along with an enjoyable variety of fresh fruits and vegetables. Keep your fingers crossed for us and thanks again.

Great, don't worry about the protein at ALL,
there is more than you need in a plant diet.

Any questions please PM or post for others