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Yvonnie313 07-16-2025 08:35 PM

Hallelujah
 
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Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 2445871)
In the article you are quoting, "Areas that shared drinking water supplies with water used near golf courses were the most greatly impacted, the study shows. Researchers believe this shows that the pesticides used on golf courses could contribute to the amount of Parkinson's cases".
That is a factor that is unlikely in The Villages. TV water golf courses with reclaimed water and water run off into collection basins, or on the course itself when extreme rainfall amounts. The drinking water in TV comes from one of the largest aquifers in the country. TV also has a state of the art water purification system. Your home has 2 supplies of water...one for drinking and one for irrigation.
The article quoted areas in Minnesota where you do not have the controls that exist in TV.

Now this is the answer I was looking for. Facts from someone who lives there and knows what and where the water comes from and how it all relates to what the reports say are contributing factors. Thank you, remember I said I don’t live there but would like to someday and this report gave me pause. I just needed more info and thank you for answering so thoroughly. I appreciate it. :)

Yvonnie313 07-16-2025 10:35 PM

Hallelujah
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilligas (Post 2445871)
In the article you are quoting, "Areas that shared drinking water supplies with water used near golf courses were the most greatly impacted, the study shows. Researchers believe this shows that the pesticides used on golf courses could contribute to the amount of Parkinson's cases".
That is a factor that is unlikely in The Villages. TV water golf courses with reclaimed water and water run off into collection basins, or on the course itself when extreme rainfall amounts. The drinking water in TV comes from one of the largest aquifers in the country. TV also has a state of the art water purification system. Your home has 2 supplies of water...one for drinking and one for irrigation.
The article quoted areas in Minnesota where you do not have the controls that exist in TV.

Now this is the answer I was looking for. Facts from someone who lives there and knows what and where the water comes from and how it all relates to what the reports say are contributing factors. Thank you, remember I said I don’t live there but would like to someday and this report gave me pause. I just needed more info and thank you for answering so thoroughly. I appreciate it. :)

CoachKandSportsguy 07-17-2025 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2445946)
I respect JAMA, nevertheless, I can’t quite see what there would be on a golf course, that does not occur anywhere else that would cause an illness which we don’t know what causes.

Not disagreeing with your point. . . However, what I do know is that the EMR/EHR systems have lots of data which can be analyzed for potential analysis such as this. The downside is that for a nation wide study to be done then many different hospital systems data would have to be merged together to get a non localized view to begin to find any unique smoking gun. . so if you get an idea, and have some time / money, the data for research is more readily available, and if enough data / studies have enough influence that there is a statistical anomaly worth finding a smoking gun, we might make some progress into the unknown

The teaching hospital and PhD program adjacent to where coachk works does use some of the EMR data in their research.

CoachKandSportsguy 07-17-2025 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Yvonnie313 (Post 2446193)
Now this is the answer I was looking for. Facts from someone who lives there and knows what and where the water comes from and how it all relates to what the reports say are contributing factors. Thank you, remember I said I don’t live there but would like to someday and this report gave me pause. I just needed more info and thank you for answering so thoroughly. I appreciate it. :)

Although yes, TV has separate water systems, which may appear to contradict opinions in the research study, the Florida aquifer is not immune from having water, rain or otherwise, making it down to the aquifer. the question being, where do you think the FL aquifer water comes from? Likewise, the FL aquifer is large, and does flow, so the water might not just come from the villages real estate.

Airport deicing / other chemicals poisoned some of Cape Cod's aquifers, miles away. . it was found through monitoring, not through medical records.

So retiring at 67, and the average lifespan is 83. . you have on average 16 years of declining youth invincibility health left. . . and you might not make it here due to an automobile/flood/tornado/accident you can't predict. . . . so the unfortunate very low probability random chance outcomes should never prevent one from moving here or there. .

good luck just don't fall prey to your hard wired brain's survival instinct to avoid any and all potential random chance negative outcomes.

PilotAlan 07-19-2025 08:40 PM

Not to mention that EVEN IF we assume that golf course chemicals contribute to Parkinson's, people who live on golf courses are much more likely to PLAY GOLF on courses regularly.
Meaning they are getting much more exposure from being in/on the actual vegetation, getting directly exposed.
JAMA called them out for significantly questionable statistical analysis and assumptions, and confounding factors were largely disregarded.

DonH57 07-20-2025 08:39 AM

Well. I've never researched the relationship possibilities between golf and Parkinsons but it is odd my Tourettes disappeared shortly after I retired and reared it's ugly head soon after taking up golf. Of course it never happens at the doctor's office.:gc:


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