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dbussone 01-30-2018 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1510650)
I agree......when we lived in PA we had great medical facilities but we were so close to major cities and those facilities had major financial investors. I have told many, that if HC is critical to you maybe you should consider someplace else. Not saying it is bad here, just that there are better places in this Country. I'm not sure how they can fix the ER issues this time of the year....making the investment for peaks in the winter is probably not a good business decision. Finally, I would love to see them change the name of hospital, too many people here believe it is affiliated with The Villages



I must disagree with you. I grew up in Boston, know the outstanding medical facilities in most of our major cities, and ran two very large teaching hospital systems in addition to two large private systems. And I still moved here, despite having a couple of chronic medical conditions.

Perfectly acceptable care is readily available here in TV for most issues. If you have a more serious problem, there are 5 Level 1 trauma systems in FL, high level transplant programs, etc., etc., etc. Within a two hour drive almost anything you can imagine can be provided. And one of a handful of NIH approved national Comprehensive Cancer Centers is available in Tampa - the Moffett Cancer Center.

It really puts me off when people who don’t have a clue about medicine or health care recommend someone consider someplace else for a home - because of a perceived lack of health care resources.

Do your homework and stop giving advice when you really don’t know have all the facts at hand.


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Wiotte 01-30-2018 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1510660)
I must disagree with you. I grew up in Boston, know the outstanding medical facilities in most of our major cities, and ran two very large teaching hospital systems in addition to two large private systems. And I still moved here, despite having a couple of chronic medical conditions.

Perfectly acceptable care is readily available here in TV for most issues. If you have a more serious problem, there are 5 Level 1 trauma systems in FL, high level transplant programs, etc., etc., etc. Within a two hour drive almost anything you can imagine can be provided. And one of a handful of NIH approved national Comprehensive Cancer Centers is available in Tampa - the Moffett Cancer Center.

It really puts me off when people who don’t have a clue about medicine or health care recommend someone consider someplace else for a home - because of a perceived lack of health care resources.

Do your homework and stop giving advice when you really don’t know have all the facts at hand.


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NotGolfer 01-31-2018 02:11 AM

Alot of the issue is that they are under-staffed. I was recently in the hospital (it was scheduled). The care was very good BUT the staff is stretched. "POWERS THAT BE" who are in the suits and make the decisions need to help the employees who have a true calling feel that they are valued. I wonder if that happens!?! Also, rather than one nurse, one CNA on each wing during a shift should at least be doubled. I've heard the "well it thins out after 'high season' so it would be hard to justify! Well we've grown and the busy-ness of the hospital has shown that as well. I for one, am thankful we do have a hospital but it's my opinion they need to do more to keep up. A new hospital would help....but I wonder if that would truly help. I chatted with a health-care professional and they agreed with me but also said this is becoming a national thing and is throughout the whole health industry and not just here. ONE way to possibly put "feet on this issue" is to write the folks who run the health organization as well as the county and state officials instead of the complaining on social media. I know once I'm up and around from my experience there, I will be doing something like that!!

For the lady who lost her husband, I'm so very, very sorry for your loss! My words ring hollow to what you're going through.

NotGolfer 01-31-2018 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1510660)
I must disagree with you. I grew up in Boston, know the outstanding medical facilities in most of our major cities, and ran two very large teaching hospital systems in addition to two large private systems. And I still moved here, despite having a couple of chronic medical conditions.

Perfectly acceptable care is readily available here in TV for most issues. If you have a more serious problem, there are 5 Level 1 trauma systems in FL, high level transplant programs, etc., etc., etc. Within a two hour drive almost anything you can imagine can be provided. And one of a handful of NIH approved national Comprehensive Cancer Centers is available in Tampa - the Moffett Cancer Center.

It really puts me off when people who don’t have a clue about medicine or health care recommend someone consider someplace else for a home - because of a perceived lack of health care resources.

Do your homework and stop giving advice when you really don’t know have all the facts at hand.


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Well stated!!!!

fw102807 01-31-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1510660)
I must disagree with you. I grew up in Boston, know the outstanding medical facilities in most of our major cities, and ran two very large teaching hospital systems in addition to two large private systems. And I still moved here, despite having a couple of chronic medical conditions.

Perfectly acceptable care is readily available here in TV for most issues. If you have a more serious problem, there are 5 Level 1 trauma systems in FL, high level transplant programs, etc., etc., etc. Within a two hour drive almost anything you can imagine can be provided. And one of a handful of NIH approved national Comprehensive Cancer Centers is available in Tampa - the Moffett Cancer Center.

It really puts me off when people who don’t have a clue about medicine or health care recommend someone consider someplace else for a home - because of a perceived lack of health care resources.

Do your homework and stop giving advice when you really don’t know have all the facts at hand.


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Thank you. I am very happy to hear this. I know the ER issue is a nationwide one and that they need to continue to look for a way to make it more efficient but all in all the care we have received has been fine.

graciegirl 01-31-2018 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1510660)
I must disagree with you. I grew up in Boston, know the outstanding medical facilities in most of our major cities, and ran two very large teaching hospital systems in addition to two large private systems. And I still moved here, despite having a couple of chronic medical conditions.

Perfectly acceptable care is readily available here in TV for most issues. If you have a more serious problem, there are 5 Level 1 trauma systems in FL, high level transplant programs, etc., etc., etc. Within a two hour drive almost anything you can imagine can be provided. And one of a handful of NIH approved national Comprehensive Cancer Centers is available in Tampa - the Moffett Cancer Center.

It really puts me off when people who don’t have a clue about medicine or health care recommend someone consider someplace else for a home - because of a perceived lack of health care resources.

Do your homework and stop giving advice when you really don’t know have all the facts at hand.


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Well said. The Boston Area is well known as the pinnacle of medical excellence in this country and possibly the world. It is comforting to hear you say this.

manaboutown 01-31-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1510574)
Well said. We continue to take Daughter Helene to Cincinnati for monitoring of her congenital heart defect.

Smart and caring!:angel:

graciegirl 02-05-2018 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gail herrmann (Post 1510009)
My husband and I moved to the Villages 2 years ago and love it. Unfortunately my husband became gravely Ill one month after we moved. This is an actual response after reading talk of the Villages this morning about the woman going to Villages Regional Hospital and sitting on a gurny in the ER hallway all night. This is not just the flu causing this horrendous service at the Villages regional. My husband has been rushed by ambulance or we walked in and every time he was taken in the back only to be put in an Er room to sit there 17 hours to overnight. If this isn’t bad enough no one ever comes in and tells u the status or what’s going on. My husband has since passed away in November with never being able to enjoy his passion, golf.

It got so bad when my husbands doctor advised me to take him to emergency I refused. We’ve had so many bad experiences in the Villages ER I felt I’d rather have him die at home in comfort then in a cold ER room on a rack of a gurney.

This issue HAS to be addressed. We need to stop building additional communities in the land that is purchased and start building more hospitals. AND SOONER NIT LATER.

I worked in the medical industry for 10 years and my husband for 30 and I have yet to see such atrocious health care as we have in the Villages.

I was in the emergency room last month waiting for a bed in Critical Care for several hours. I was in a small room with monitors on me for vital signs. I disagree with your assessment.

I am very sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine the sadness you are feeling.
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Madelaine Amee 02-05-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1510660)
I must disagree with you. I grew up in Boston, know the outstanding medical facilities in most of our major cities, and ran two very large teaching hospital systems in addition to two large private systems. And I still moved here, despite having a couple of chronic medical conditions.

Perfectly acceptable care is readily available here in TV for most issues. If you have a more serious problem, there are 5 Level 1 trauma systems in FL, high level transplant programs, etc., etc., etc. Within a two hour drive almost anything you can imagine can be provided. And one of a handful of NIH approved national Comprehensive Cancer Centers is available in Tampa - the Moffett Cancer Center.

It really puts me off when people who don’t have a clue about medicine or health care recommend someone consider someplace else for a home - because of a perceived lack of health care resources.

Do your homework and stop giving advice when you really don’t know have all the facts at hand.

Great post dbussone and thank you. I'm from the Boston area and all my doctors were at the Beth Israel. It's one of many great hospitals in Boston, but have you ever been in a major teaching hospital ER? Well I have and be assured it is like nothing you have ever seen before, other than what you see on a television reality show. People being brought in every second, gun shots, drug overdoses, heart attacks, people in labor - the noise is unbelievable, it is a nightmare. I've also been in the ER in The Village hospital, the care was excellent and I am grateful to have this hospital right here, as dbussone said - if you cannot get help here we are within acceptable reach of several excellent medical facilities.

dillywho 02-05-2018 09:39 AM

Could It Be?
 
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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1510724)
Alot of the issue is that they are under-staffed. I was recently in the hospital (it was scheduled). The care was very good BUT the staff is stretched. "POWERS THAT BE" who are in the suits and make the decisions need to help the employees who have a true calling feel that they are valued. I wonder if that happens!?! Also, rather than one nurse, one CNA on each wing during a shift should at least be doubled. I've heard the "well it thins out after 'high season' so it would be hard to justify! Well we've grown and the busy-ness of the hospital has shown that as well. I for one, am thankful we do have a hospital but it's my opinion they need to do more to keep up. A new hospital would help....but I wonder if that would truly help. I chatted with a health-care professional and they agreed with me but also said this is becoming a national thing and is throughout the whole health industry and not just here. ONE way to possibly put "feet on this issue" is to write the folks who run the health organization as well as the county and state officials instead of the complaining on social media. I know once I'm up and around from my experience there, I will be doing something like that!!

For the lady who lost her husband, I'm so very, very sorry for your loss! My words ring hollow to what you're going through.

You are right in many ways.

Healthcare here in The Villages is not a one way street. After personally witnessing some of the abuse, yes abuse, dished out to nurses and their techs and many other staff members, could it just possibly be part of the reason for the shortages? Who can blame them for not wanting to work here. With today's communication, they too, can read what is being written here and in other venues. I just wonder (and doubt it) if Ocala, Gainesville, or the bigger cities in FL would put up with it.

Years ago (many), I had the unfortunate experience of having to share a room with just such a person. Apparently, the staff had had it up to their eyeballs. So had I. Her doctor came in and told her something that I will never forget: "This is a hospital. It is not a five-star hotel. We are all here to help you to get well. Now, if you want the luxuries of such a hotel, then I will dismiss you from my care and you can go there. Otherwise, you will settle down and let us get you well and out of here. What is it going to be?" She then became a very pleasant patient and roommate.

dillywho 02-05-2018 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1512295)
Great post dbussone and thank you. I'm from the Boston area and all my doctors were at the Beth Israel. It's one of many great hospitals in Boston, but have you ever been in a major teaching hospital ER? Well I have and be assured it is like nothing you have ever seen before, other than what you see on a television reality show. People being brought in every second, gun shots, drug overdoses, heart attacks, people in labor - the noise is unbelievable, it is a nightmare. I've also been in the ER in The Village hospital, the care was excellent and I am grateful to have this hospital right here, as dbussone said - if you cannot get help here we are within acceptable reach of several excellent medical facilities.

Excellent post! If you are in need of critical services that our hospital cannot provide, they will stabilize you to the point that you can be safely transported elsewhere.

kaseydog 02-05-2018 09:54 AM

gail so sorry for your loss. my husband passed away in 2017. he went by ambulance to leesburg hospital. went from er to overflow areas 1,2,3,4 etc. no medical care. finally put in room(but not admitted to hospital). test & visits by doctors were scheduled but after waiting 8 hours for test & doctor visits htwere cancelled due to overcrowding. this happened over & over. my husband's condition steadily declined.

427dave 02-05-2018 11:04 AM

I had a terrible experience. I was taken by ambulance and the driver was told the only hospital excepting patients was TV, Leesburg and Ocala were not. They brought me in and they would not accept me and told the EMT. The EMT is not allowed to leave until the ER accepts you. I lay there on the ambulance gurney for hours and the EMT was forced too stay. My Bp was decreasing and my pulse was up to 200. The EMT are not allowed to administer any medications in the ER and the ER would not accept me and administer anything. Finally the EMT gave me something in my IV against ER rules. My wife said there was 4 ambulances waiting outside.

graciegirl 02-05-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 427dave (Post 1512357)
I had a terrible experience. I was taken by ambulance and the driver was told the only hospital excepting patients was TV, Leesburg and Ocala were not. They brought me in and they would not accept me and told the EMT. The EMT is not allowed to leave until the ER accepts you. I lay there on the ambulance gurney for hours and the EMT was forced too stay. My Bp was decreasing and my pulse was up to 200. The EMT are not allowed to administer any medications in the ER and the ER would not accept me and administer anything. Finally the EMT gave me something in my IV against ER rules. My wife said there was 4 ambulances waiting outside.

WHY didn't "they accept" you. I was brought in with no identification, no insurance cards, nothing, and they treated me.

manaboutown 02-05-2018 03:34 PM

Where one goes with a medical condition can matter. Many of you probably heard about the Canadian couple getting hookworm in the Dominican Republic. According to the news release the Canadian health system would not provide them the drug they needed (ivermectin) so they had to get it in the United States. Couple contract hookworms while on vacation in Dominican Republic


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