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Bay Kid 06-13-2020 06:25 AM

Just do what we are told. All will be over soon.

Bill1701 06-13-2020 06:26 AM

People from up north are still here. Why? Because they can actually get out and do stuff. That's a big gain for the economy here and a big loss for the ones up north.

nn0wheremann 06-13-2020 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bonrich (Post 1783151)
It took awhile but we got used to wearing seat belts, right? So, same will go for the masks, will wear them for as long as it takes to be safe. It is surprising to watch people as they exit their cars and not have a mask on, but as soon as they hit the door of a business, on goes the mask. It will be for a time until a vaccine is produced that will protect us, and it will be like getting a flu shot every year, I hope..........

Well said. Your mask protects me, and for that I thank you.

toeser 06-13-2020 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1782972)
Kids can go back to school Some theme parks are opening. Restaurants can open to %100 capacity...People are asking to have the entertainment back at the squares..FLORIDA JUST RECORDED THE MOST CASES OF COVID 19 CASES IN ONE DAY TODAY... any body besides me see a problem?

There is absolutely no reason not to reopen schools. I am at my northern home for the summer and I'm out and about every day. Kids are grouping like crazy. They are playing football, basketball, tennis, and other sports. They have crowded the beaches. There is zero social distancing by kids, so there is no reason to not reopen schools in the fall. Older teachers or kids with immunity problems may have to be protected, but not most kids.

If some doctors are correct, that COVID-19 is not being passed by asymptomatic people, and since kids rarely have a serious reaction to the disease, there seems little risk to not keeping them apart. Yes, occasionally a kid will have a serious reaction and could even die, but that happens with the flu too and we never close schools for the flu.

ColdNoMore 06-13-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 1783210)
Well said. Your mask protects me, and for that I thank you.

Ditto here. :thumbup:

gemini5001 06-13-2020 06:49 AM

To each their own. I don't criticize people who want to wear masks and keep isolated.
I do not wear masks because for me 1. It's difficult for me to breath.
2. I believe masks do not do any good, especially when I see people wearing them below their noses or on their chins.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-13-2020 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1783216)
If some doctors are correct, that COVID-19 is not being passed by asymptomatic people, and since kids rarely have a serious reaction to the disease, there seems little risk to not keeping them apart. Yes, occasionally a kid will have a serious reaction and could even die, but that happens with the flu too and we never close schools for the flu.

That was ONE doctor who misspoke and misrepresented information from the WHO. It IS being passed by asymptomatic people, however it is very rare that they can FIND asymptomatic people who are passing it because...they are asymptomatic. The only way an asymptomatic carrier of the virus can be discovered to BE a carrier, is if they get tested.

And since they are asymptomatic, it would be a very rare occurrence for them to decide to get tested. Since, they have no symptoms, and therefore don't realize that they have any need to be concerned. So they don't get tested.

That is what the actual facts were conveying when they referred to "rare" with regards to finding asymptomatic carriers. It's rare to find them, because it's rare that they'd think to get tested.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-13-2020 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gemini5001 (Post 1783225)
To each their own. I don't criticize people who want to wear masks and keep isolated.
I do not wear masks because for me 1. It's difficult for me to breath.
2. I believe masks do not do any good, especially when I see people wearing them below their noses or on their chins.

I wear my mask when I do NOT want to keep isolated. I don't need to wear it in the safety and privacy of my own home, or in my car, or when I'm out walking and no one else is around. But if I go into a building that has close quarters (like the boutiques in the town squares) then yeah that mask comes on.

Kathi71 06-13-2020 07:08 AM

Check out what is happening in Brazil where they are going with that train of thought.

MandoMan 06-13-2020 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1782976)
The sooner we get back to 100% open the sooner we will know what we are really dealing with.

The increased testing (?) supposedly contributes to higher incidences.

The problem we see is us elders (early 80's) will have to REMAIN conservatively vigilante until there is a vaccine.

There will not be another lock down.

We will learn to live with what ever numbers result just like we do with the flu, auto deaths, et al.

And don’t forget that some vaccines aren’t 100% effective. The old shingles vaccine was only 40% effective, and the flu vaccine in many years is about the same. Would a Covid-19 vaccine restore your confidence in returning to society if it were only 40% effective?

meridian5850 06-13-2020 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by woderfulwendy1 (Post 1783148)
81 cases in TV, since the start of Coronavirus. That is people who have tested positive. Not in the hospital. Not dead. Out of approximately 150,000 people. That's .012 percent.

My calculator comes up with .054%
(81÷150,000) = .00054
.00054 x 100 =.054% or approximately 1/20th of 1%

Still a minute number.

Nanny32162 06-13-2020 07:29 AM

I see this as a problem about which we should all be concerned. I do put lives first, not everyone would agree with me, but that’s all right.

jnsbill 06-13-2020 07:30 AM

First off I am not a healthcare professional and this is just my layman’s opinion, we have a highly contagious virus and with any virus there seems to be 2 options for ending it – complete quarantine or let nature run its course as we have been doing going back to 1918 – its now been proven that Neil Ferguson’s models have been completely wrong. We sheltered in place to flatten the curve and as far as I know no hospital in the US has been overwhelmed with cases. As to an increase in cases – well yeah because we’re doing more testing so therefore more cases, and nowhere have I found that the hospital admission rate has increased??? And with more testing the mortality rate is decreasing as a percentage of cases – yes 100,00 deaths is a sad thing and high risk people should/have to be more careful but if we don’t let it run its course then by next fall we’ll probably really get smacked.

theruizs 06-13-2020 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by woderfulwendy1 (Post 1783148)
81 cases in TV, since the start of Coronavirus. That is people who have tested positive. Not in the hospital. Not dead. Out of approximately 150,000 people. That's .012 percent.

How many have been actually tested though. The number is likely quite higher, which means the number that get critically ill from this virus, even at our age, must be pretty low because those would have been reported. I think the real risk is if you have a history of asthma, COPD, diabetes, etc. I was in the super conservative camp through most of this, but now I am wondering if we went too far. I will still be cautious because I have a history of asthma, but not sure the world should stop to protect me. At this point, maybe we should each just protect ourselves as we think necessary and let others do the same.

boobear51751 06-13-2020 07:37 AM

Have you seen any amount of testing sites here in TV? No, they do not test here for a reason. If the numbers were real numbers then the sales of homes would drop, money would stop flowing into TV. Why won't they test everyone. There is no shortage of test kits and this population deserves to know how we stand. I lost a dear friend to this virus and he died alone with only eyes behind a mask to bid him farewell. No family or friends by his side. Now, say to yourself if this were my brother, sister, mother or father how would I like to see them die?...... Alone? This is not just the flu or a car crash. We have surpassed the number of flu deaths weeks ago. U.S. has won the most death contest in the world. We need to step back and stop opening up things so fast.

One needs to read the history on other pandemics to understand how this is going to play out. Yes, the reading is a little heavy and very scientific, but it tells the true story. We are not out of the wood and won't be for years. Some of us won't even be here to see the outcome, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Wear your mask at all times.


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