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jimjamuser 06-13-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783144)
Yes I am terrified. Faith not fear signs are ignorant if one truly knows the word of God. It is foolish to think we can resume life as normal when we are living in a pandemic as the most at risk population. I see people loaded in the restaurants and gathering together and it makes me sad. We buy takeout to support locals but stay away from crowds and wear a mask live with sanitizer and dry hands that’s me.

You go Bellaperson! Well-spoken.

ColdNoMore 06-13-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1783568)
You go Bellaperson! Well-spoken.

DITTO! :thumbup:



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Originally Posted by Bellavita (Post 1783144)
Yes I am terrified. Faith not fear signs are ignorant if one truly knows the word of God. It is foolish to think we can resume life as normal when we are living in a pandemic as the most at risk population. I see people loaded in the restaurants and gathering together and it makes me sad. We buy takeout to support locals but stay away from crowds and wear a mask live with sanitizer and dry hands that’s me.

It's not just you...we're right there with ya. :thumbup:

jimjamuser 06-13-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by woderfulwendy1 (Post 1783148)
81 cases in TV, since the start of Coronavirus. That is people who have tested positive. Not in the hospital. Not dead. Out of approximately 150,000 people. That's .012 percent.

What about the torturous Death unnecessarily carried to them by non-mask wearing, non-distancing people. Was that right? Is it too much to ask for mask-wearing? Medical experts state that if 60% of all people wore their masks 60% of the time, that CV could be traced and disappear.

Two Bills 06-13-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1783385)
Slowing it down was the goal (flatten the curve, remember?). Now they are trying to move the goal posts. I believe it may be God's judgement on a sinful nation.But, if anyone doesn't believe in God and prefers the Darwinian explanation for our existence, let's open everything up and let "survival of the fittest" play out. That's what the schools teach our kids. Hiding from the virus is practically hypocritical. Open everything. Take off the masks. Shake hands when you meet someone. A polite hug / cheek kiss when you meet the relatives. Let's get back to normal.

:ohdear:

jimjamuser 06-13-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1783216)
There is absolutely no reason not to reopen schools. I am at my northern home for the summer and I'm out and about every day. Kids are grouping like crazy. They are playing football, basketball, tennis, and other sports. They have crowded the beaches. There is zero social distancing by kids, so there is no reason to not reopen schools in the fall. Older teachers or kids with immunity problems may have to be protected, but not most kids.

If some doctors are correct, that COVID-19 is not being passed by asymptomatic people, and since kids rarely have a serious reaction to the disease, there seems little risk to not keeping them apart. Yes, occasionally a kid will have a serious reaction and could even die, but that happens with the flu too and we never close schools for the flu.

Many children HAVE already died and we are in the early innings of CV. And YES asymptomatic can pass it. And nonsymptomatic can readily pass CV 2 days before they develop symptoms. That IS PART of why this CV is so DEARLY.

jimjamuser 06-13-2020 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by boobear51751 (Post 1783311)
Have you seen any amount of testing sites here in TV? No, they do not test here for a reason. If the numbers were real numbers then the sales of homes would drop, money would stop flowing into TV. Why won't they test everyone. There is no shortage of test kits and this population deserves to know how we stand. I lost a dear friend to this virus and he died alone with only eyes behind a mask to bid him farewell. No family or friends by his side. Now, say to yourself if this were my brother, sister, mother or father how would I like to see them die?...... Alone? This is not just the flu or a car crash. We have surpassed the number of flu deaths weeks ago. U.S. has won the most death contest in the world. We need to step back and stop opening up things so fast.

One needs to read the history on other pandemics to understand how this is going to play out. Yes, the reading is a little heavy and very scientific, but it tells the true story. We are not out of the wood and won't be for years. Some of us won't even be here to see the outcome, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Wear your mask at all times.

Sorry Bear, about your friend. It is said to be a not-so-good way to go. Yes, greed and fear are big human motivators. Right today Greed is winning.

jimjamuser 06-13-2020 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by forebubba (Post 1783356)
Ask yourself why...the US has 3% of the world's population but 30% of the deaths due to covid

Because it is a hoax. Can't you know?

jimjamuser 06-13-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 1783380)
People are becoming complacent. They are tired of this virus but this virus isn’t tired of us. No nation can endure a lockdown forever and it is inevitable that businesses and attractions would open. Because they have, the number of cases has risen. It was recently Memorial Day gatherings and now protests where people have been in close contact that likely is the reason the numbers are increasing. Let’s not forget the recent space launch where people ignored social distancing. Gov DeSantis said yesterday in his press conference that it has been young people who typically can fight off the virus that account for the increase. The problem with that is that they become seeds that scatter to older, at risk people. So, if this virus does what is anticipated, I suspect we will see an uptick in older populations within the next few weeks. As for an increase because of testing, that isn’t exactly accurate, and WHO’s irresponsible message that masks aren’t necessary has been contradicted by so many Infectious Disease experts.

We each get to choose our level of comfort. If you are at risk, stay home. If you choose to go out and about, be smart about it. So, I will do what is best for myself which is to only go out when necessary and to interact only with a small circle of friends who agree to wear masks if we gather. And, most importantly, I will wear a mask when it is necessary to go out. I respectfully request that others wear masks when going out and about as well. It is the responsible and kind thing to do. We can get through this difficult time. We are resilient and intelligent. We may have more cases in the US than any other country, but we also have a much larger population too so that is no surprise. Hang in there everyone, respect one another. We will get through this.

Well written and empathetic. Maybe you could run for some government office. I would vote for that logic.

Huskies 06-13-2020 02:41 PM

Yes I see a big problem with all these openings going on. It’s not a great idea since the numbers are going up again since Memorial Day weekend. It’s horrible to see so many people without masks with no feelings about other people who have bad health conditions.

Madelaine Amee 06-13-2020 02:55 PM

I saw my cardiologist this past week. We had a discussion about Covid. He told me that the people wearing the masks and protecting themselves in public probably don't need to, and those choosing not to wear masks probably need to.

Awful lot of old men don't wear masks!!!! I've even seen people in wheel chairs not wearing a mask. :ohdear:

Personally, I really don't care what others do, I just do the best I can for myself.

photo1902 06-13-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1783645)
I saw my cardiologist this past week. We had a discussion about Covid. He told me that the people wearing the masks and protecting themselves in public probably don't need to, and those choosing not to wear masks probably need to.

Awful lot of old men don't wear masks!!!! I've even seen people in wheel chairs not wearing a mask. :ohdear:

Personally, I really don't care what others do, I just do the best I can for myself.

But I thought we’ve all been told that wearing a mask is to protect others... not the wearer. Has that now changed?

twinklesweep 06-13-2020 04:27 PM

Generally speaking—and keeping as clear as we can be—people seem to think in one of two ways. This doesn’t mean that anyone thinks 100 percent one way or the other. Read the two quotes and see if you identify with one more than the other—or mostly with one or the other.

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Originally Posted by woderfulwendy1 (Post 1783148)
81 cases in TV, since the start of Coronavirus. That is people who have tested positive. Not in the hospital. Not dead. Out of approximately 150,000 people. That's .012 percent.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1783571)
What about the torturous Death unnecessarily carried to them by non-mask wearing, non-distancing people. Was that right? Is it too much to ask for mask-wearing? Medical experts state that if 60% of all people wore their masks 60% of the time, that CV could be traced and disappear.

Given the current state of Covid-19, as far as masks are concerned, when my surgeons and their OR staffs find them unnecessary to prevent contagion, then I may give up mine!

billethkid 06-13-2020 04:38 PM

Where is the surge being measured from the social distancing exempt group?

You know the hundreds of thousands of shoulder to shoulder protestors.

Funny how that issue does not get much coverage.

jimjamuser 06-13-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 1783678)
Generally speaking—and keeping as clear as we can be—people seem to think in one of two ways. This doesn’t mean that anyone thinks 100 percent one way or the other. Read the two quotes and see if you identify with one more than the other—or mostly with one or the other.





Given the current state of Covid-19, as far as masks are concerned, when my surgeons and their OR staffs find them unnecessary to prevent contagion, then I may give up mine!

Better to give up on your surgeon!

jarodrig 06-13-2020 05:32 PM

Survival of the fittest .... always has been , always will be ....so, let’s get on with life , if you dare ... ;)


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