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Judy n Ron 10-05-2015 06:58 AM

Wife best friend had breast cancer and survived. However it metastized to her lungs then ultimately her brain, which are in your top 2 list. Nuff said.

outlaw 10-05-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1123600)
When the subject is cancer...that about does it for establishing that we are now in serious territory. The only people who are allowed to joke about it, are those who have had it.


Because it is never a light subject and rarely discussed with sports broadcasting.

I wasn't joking about cancer. I was joking about men and their priorities. But why am I wasting time trying to explain anything to you? Bless your heart, and have a nice day!

Villager Joyce 10-05-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1124489)
I wasn't joking about cancer. I was joking about men and their priorities. But why am I wasting time trying to explain anything to you? Bless your heart, and have a nice day!

The best defense is a good offense.

FosterMomma 10-05-2015 08:11 AM

I guess I don't see this as an "either/or" issue. Both my parents died of cancer. I have had it as has my 30 year old daughter (neither one breast cancer) but I will wear pink to support all the warrior women in my life, just as I would wear a daffodil or red to support the heart disease that plagues my husband and so many others. I find the negative posts to be astonishingly without compassion or generosity. Surely we can all imagine that research and cure for one cancer would serve to assist in finding cures for them all.

Tea42 10-05-2015 08:16 AM

Why is there a problem supporting this cause. It takes so little effort. If it motevates one person to be tested and it turns out they have cancer, then this support has worked. The reason the "events" are so popular is because so many people work hard to promote awareness and we shouldn't have a problem with their efforts as Jima64 stated.

If we had more "events" for the other cancers I am sure The Villages would support them. In my former life, people went door to door collecting for causes. I didn't slam the door on them.

However, I respect your opinion.

outlaw 10-05-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tea42 (Post 1124527)
Why is there a problem supporting this cause. It takes so little effort. If it motevates one person to be tested and it turns out they have cancer, then this support has worked. The reason the "events" are so popular is because so many people work hard to promote awareness and we shouldn't have a problem with their efforts as Jima64 stated.

If we had more "events" for the other cancers I am sure The Villages would support them. In my former life, people went door to door collecting for causes. I didn't slam the door on them.

However, I respect your opinion.

I think there are a lot of good causes and a lot of good intentions. But there are soooooo many now, that many people have become numb to all causes. Not judging one way or the other. Just saying that's the way it is.

CFrance 10-05-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1123671)
An example of statistics used to skew opinion that comes from ignorance or laziness to understand what is under the statistics. Either way, not very constructive or informative.

I'm late telling you how good I think your response was.:BigApplause:

BradnKathy 10-05-2015 09:28 AM

I agree with original post
 
I've been making the same point for years but you got to hand it to the ladies, what a PR campaign.

BTW has anyone looked at what the National Breast Cancer Foundation, Inc leadership gets paid. Not bad for "NON PROFIT".

tommymc 10-05-2015 09:41 AM

I will not go pink
 
I support all ribbon colors!!!! I have Multiple Sclerosis (M/S) so lets add ORANGE to the list of colors not to wear !.!.....

AnnieMc 10-05-2015 11:02 AM

Bad info. Many of the "Pink" events send proceeds to the American Cancer Society. Not just for Breast Cancer.

Linda Ann 10-05-2015 11:47 AM

For some reason the writer thinks the derogatory term "boobs" is acceptable. OK, whatever. I believe my breast, brains, ovaries, colon, skin etc. are all important parts of my body. Cancer in any part of my body can kill me.
Some people give to different causes due to the loss of a loved one. You are free to give or not give to whoever you choose. Your cause may not be mine and mine may not be yours. So be it.
The important thing is that people give to research if they choose to do so. Without research we would not have the simplest or complex ways to combat illnesses. If person takes an aspirin or has an artificial knee replacement it is because someone financed that research. Think of all the medications and health services that has helped you throughout your life and silently thank those who made it possible.

bdorman 10-05-2015 11:51 AM

The percentages are meaningless without "number of people" figures.

One percentage might be 98% but only effects 100 people, while another percentage is only 10% but effects 10,000 people.

Villager Joyce 10-05-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Linda Ann (Post 1124687)
For some reason the writer thinks the derogatory term "boobs" is acceptable. OK, whatever. I believe my breast, brains, ovaries, colon, skin etc. are all important parts of my body. Cancer in any part of my body can kill me.
Some people give to different causes due to the loss of a loved one. You are free to give or not give to whoever you choose. Your cause may not be mine and mine may not be yours. So be it.
The important thing is that people give to research if they choose to do so. Without research we would not have the simplest or complex ways to combat illnesses. If person takes an aspirin or has an artificial knee replacement it is because someone financed that research. Think of all the medications and health services that has helped you throughout your life and silently thank those who made it possible.

I agree with everything you say except...thank them LOUDLY.

pauld315 10-05-2015 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieMc (Post 1124665)
Bad info. Many of the "Pink" events send proceeds to the American Cancer Society. Not just for Breast Cancer.

I am not sure about that. If you take a look at the Komen site which is arguably the largest non profit raising money for breast cancer, the money they raise goes toward breast cancer related expenses or administration.

Regardless, the women have done a fantastic job with PR to raise money for this one specific form of cancer. Granted, at times, the research for breast cancer can be used with other forms of cancer. However, it would be nice if more of the money raised could be donated to organizations trying to fight all types of cancer.

I say this having a wife who has benefited tremendously over the past 20 years of fighting this disease successfully through research that was done with money earmarked for breast cancer. She has survived it twice, the last time being 11 years ago and she will be a 20 year survivor next year. Being the primary caregiver, I saw firsthand the inside of many oncology offices, cancer treatment hospitals and radiation clinics. There are so many other forms of cancer that need the same attention as breast cancer. There are several that have a minimal chance of surviving 5 years after diagnosis still and no concerted efforts to help raise money for research. This is unacceptable in 2015.

With early detection, breast cancer has nowhere near the 5 year mortality rate it once had due to all the money that has poured in for research and education. That is a great thing and while I would love to see this form completely eradicated, however, there needs to be more focus and resources put on other forms of cancer at this point. Until we can eradicate all forms of cancer through more global research, I don't think any of them will ever get down to a 0% 5 year mortality rate.

pgc4340 10-05-2015 01:15 PM

The BEAST known as Cancer
 
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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 1122579)
while I understand the popularity of breast cancer events, everybody is obsessed with boobs, they draw the public awareness away from the truly deadly cancers.

Percentage of patients deceased within five years after diagnosis:

Pancreatic cancer –93%
Liver cancer – 83.9%
Lung cancer – 83.4%
Esophageal cancer – 82.7%
Stomach cancer – 72.3%
Brain cancer – 66.5%

Ovarian cancer – 55.8%
Leukemia – 44%
Laryngeal cancer – 39.4%
Oral cancer – 37.8%
Colon cancer – 35.1%
Bone cancer – 33.6%
Colorectal cancer – 33.5%
Cervical cancer – 32.1%
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma - 30.7%
Kidney cancer – 28.2%
Bladder cancer – 22.1%
Uterine cancer – 18.5%
Breast cancer – 10.8%
Skin cancer – 8.7%
Thyroid cancer – 2.3%
Prostate cancer – 0.8%

I understand your desire to go pink. I did not go pink until my dearest friend died from breast cancer age 53 years old. On her 6 year anniversary date of being declared cancer free, breast cancer was found to have metastasized to her liver. Another friend was recently diagnosed, and after surgery is under treatment. Another childhood friend had prostrate cancer, was doing very well, until it was also found to have metastasized to his liver. He is now on hospice at 68 years old. My neighbor across the street was found to have cancer in his brain, too late for treatment, he died within days at age 65. I also have friends who have lost children/grandchildren to childhood cancer, which relapsed again and again. Now I support all cancers, but now I donate more toward those with little promise of a cure because of the need for more research.


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