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Bonanza 05-20-2015 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1062302)
We're not talking about "everything" and I'm not sure what you mean by "mega-cure". Your interpretation of what I said is that diet is a mega-cure for everything?


How do you know for sure that air pollution causes obesity? Dr. Perera stated that there is a correlation between air pollutants and childhood obesity. She tracked 720 mother-child pairs. Then she said "there is a tendency for some children to become more obese." It doesn't sound very definite to say "there is a tendency". Nothing was said about the study having a control group for comparison purposes.

If you want to maintain a civil discussion, I think it's counterproductive to keep using the word preaching. It's offensive. Suppose I took the opposite point of view that you are preaching about the evils of air pollution?

If you go back and read your thousands of threads and posts regarding diet, you will realize that you do, in fact, preach. Most of what you say pretty much indicates "my way or the highway" in regard to the thinking of anyone else.

Studies are just that. Nothing is ever definite in a study. A doctor or other expert has conducted one and tells what the results have shown. So why are you crucifying CFrance for bringing up this "study," simply food for thought and as a piece of information on this forum???

jblum315 05-20-2015 05:11 AM

Most people do not want to be told what they should or shouldn't eat

graciegirl 05-20-2015 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 1062639)
Most people do not want to be told what they should or shouldn't eat

Hugs Jeanne. You nailed it.

I usually enjoy a good debate but this one has gone on for years now.

Years.

AND yesterday I called a bunch of nice vegetarian's annoying. That isn't nice or fair. It's the harping by just ONE that grinds me down.

Villager Joyce 05-20-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1062674)
Hugs Jeanne. You nailed it.

I usually enjoy a good debate but this one has gone on for years now.

Years.

AND yesterday I called a bunch of nice vegetarian's annoying. That isn't nice or fair. It's the harping by just ONE that grinds me down.

Gracie, For the periods of my life that I didn't eat meat, I always said: I'm not a vegetarian. I just don't eat meat. I didn't want to be associated with the preachy type or the over the wall type. There are good vegetarians and there are bad ones just like every other group. I've always heard there is nothing worse than a ex-smoker. Well, not so sure now.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-20-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1062272)
At first you may think this is unrelated or changing the subject but it's not.
Air pollution of course is bad and I have always maintained that to be at one's healthiest one needs to get as many things right as possible, including buckling up when driving and getting a good nights sleep. Everything counts for something.

To hint that some people think eating the right diet is all that counts is to misunderstand and mischaracterize. Those who are concerned about proper nutrition are usually concerned about ALL aspects of things that have an effect on one's health.

How does this relate to smokers? An observational study (The Okinawa Program) showed that elderly smokers in Okinawa were usually not as adversely affected by smoking as American smokers. They often maintained good health and longevity despite smoking. (This thread is about children not the elderly but the principle is the same, so hold on.) What was the difference? Why did smokers in Okinawa do better? The theory is that because they ate a diet high in antioxidants their system stayed clean or was kept clean.

When people are exposed to air pollution, a healthy diet becomes more important than ever for cell rebuilding and repair and to help eliminate toxins. To be exposed to air pollution together with a poor diet is to compound the problem and obesity may become more certain.

I almost forgot: Someone will always say it genetic but that's wrong. Second generation Japanese-Americans have the same rates of degenerative diseases as the rest of the American population.

Genetics does not have to do with the general overall health of a particular race of people.It has to do with the genes that you inherited from your parents, grandparents, great grandparents and so on down the line.

Asian people do not all have the same genes.

While there are diseases that are more prevalent or less prevalent in some races than other's, that has nothing to do with genetics.

The fact that Africans are more prone to sickle cell anemia is not due to genetics. The fact that a person has blind hair and blues eyes and is predisposed to heart disease is due to genetics.


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