In a nutshell, Gracie has "said it all". Again, words of wisdom.

I agree with Mudder.

Can't help not to love Subway. Yesterday we had a "double turkey with spinach leaves, lettuce and avocado" foot longer with vinagrette.
Turkey has tryptophan which is good for one's disposition and calmness.
Maybe that's why we are happy.

After eating half the foot long sandwich, I proceded to use my charge card to order some more books on my kindle while hubby and I were watching our recorded version of the convention......we watched both of them. What would life be without a television and charge cards?

Nowadays one can't even buy air tickets without a charge card.
Television useage can be selective; our favorites are national geographic and history channel etc. We do not choose to live like monks and nuns.

Again, good post.

Gracie: I will be over later to share that glass of wine with you..lol. Alright everyone..time for a group hug and then let's go out and spread the sunshine.

Gracie, you said it well. Have a bless'd day and lots of them! Happiness is a Choice and TV is filled with great folks making that choice. Live is good.

LW888

Well Said!!!
 

:bowdown:

Gracie, I love the wisdom of your post and I agree with every word. Thank you for putting my feelings about this topic into words.:bowdown:

Thank you, you are loved, Gracie!

I can feel the joy. (All the way up here in Canada!) GG, you've got a great attitude. :agree::clap2::thumbup::ho:

Well, evidently, it's not something that's easy to understand. This study was conducted by doctors/psychologists. If you are one who likes psychology and believes in psychology you might believe that the study has some merit. If not (if you have an attitude against it) you will likely think it's a lot of rubbish. Everyone is free to believe it or not.




Well, maybe so. I'm trying my best to get the important information to bring this into proper focus but I can't bring you everything that's in the book.


It was defined by self. The study subjects were interviewed over and over throughout their lives. When the study began, they didn't know what the conclusion would be or what information would be the most important. So they also interviewed the parents and teachers. They were simply compiling as much information as they could. They looked at the whole personality of the child.


So you're saying that all those study subjects (out of 1,500 kids), who were judged by the psychologists to be happy or cheerful, were really crying on the inside and had everyone fooled, including their parents and teachers?

What about a combination of all of the above? A person who sees the best in all situations etc. etc.

I did more reading last night to refresh my memory and read that they did have one request when looking for volunteers for the study. They looked for students who were "bright". Most of them grew up to be successful professionals. Yes, as I said before, it's possible to be happy and still make good choices. And, yes, that's what makes me happy, the fact that I've made good lifestyle choices, even though there were some bumps along the way.

To be continued:

Well, your post made me laugh, though I'm not quite sure why. The book is a real book; I couldn't make that up. Children who just naturally have happy personalities don't live as long as others. The doctors had to admit that they were as surprised as anyone. They didn't see that coming.

But I agree that I do need to do more explaining. So stay tuned.

More information from chapter 2
 

This may help to put things in perspective:

The childhood personality that best predicted longevity was conscientiousness (i.e., a person who is organized, prudent, studious, persistent, a little obsessive, and NOT carefree).

It was not the sociable personality and not cheerfullness that predicted longevity.

I don't appreciate you talking about me like that and I would delete it if I were the moderater. But I'm not, so I guess I have to live with it. It stinks.



The doctor who started the study died in 1957. New doctors took over using the same valuable data that had been collected in previous years.
So your judgement was nothing more than "trash" talk or shall we say "wishful thinking".

One definition of "intelligent" is a person who refuses to be unhappy.

Life is full of sadness so when something good occurs embrace every bit of it.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

There is no sense being a grump if you can't act like one.

A smile precedes a happy thought

More than intelligence and creativity, "adapting" is the quality that preserves our species.

I opine you decide

omg. I am doomed to live forever.:faint:

YOU ARE NOT! But I wish you would. You are a sweetie!

Good wife, good food and good wine is the absolute secret to longevity. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

When you get to be a supercentenarian (110+), perhaps we could get together and talk about it. ;)

Well, we may both be too busy being a little obsessive. But that's very carefree of you to suggest.:icon_wink:

Are you careful, Conscientious or Carefree?
 

Just found this link. Somewhat limiting but fun to check out.


Are You Careful, Conscientious, or Carefree?

Enjoy!


LW888

That was interesting. At first I worried about the way the questions were worded. For example: "Poor spelling and grammar drive you crazy." At first I didn't check it off because of the phrase "drive you crazy". But I do worry about my spelling and grammar; when I get things wrong, as I sometimes do, I find it annoying. So, assuming that "annoying" is about the same as "drive you crazy", I decided to check it off. The final result was "You are careful". But I don't consider careful to be different than conscientious. I believe a conscientious person is a careful person. There I go, being obsessive again. :-)

Anyway, the book, "The Longevity Project", is loaded with tests to determine various aspects of personality. I took all the tests when I first read the book and did surprisingly well. I didn't keep a record of the tests so I couldn't tell you off hand what it was all about.

Found this to be interesting.

Pure food obsession is latest eating disorder | Society | The Observer

In reading GG's link, I found this link I thought was also very interesting.

Elderly struck by 'epidemic' of body image and eating disorders | Society | The Observer

In the spirit of "The Longevity Project", let's look at the personality trait that was displayed here. In doing so, we might ask what the implication is for health and longevity. (This is to be taken in the spirit of helpfulness.)

There were big bold letters (shouting), "YOU ARE NOT!", directed at quirky. In other words, quirky, don't think for yourself. You need a strong leader who will tell you what to think and when to think it. That puts you in a subservient position. How does that feel?

I don't see it as being healthy for either one of you. GG, you say you have to be yourself because everyone else is taken. Is that who you are in the above command? A controling person? A type "A" personality on their way to developing a heart condition?

And while you're being who you are, what does that make quirky? Subservient! Maybe that's why the sociable personality doesn't live as long; they have to give up being who they are to satisfy the needs of others.

Well, gee....
 

Well, gee.....I didn't take it that way at all. To me it was a sweet and kind remark. It was in its way a compliment. When people disagree with me, I don't see it as trying to control me, since that would be nigh unto impossible anyway. I think you were trying to be helpful VillagesPL, so I do appreciate the intent. If you knew Gracie better, you probably would not have interpreted it that way.

Well, I saw the big bold letters as sending you a strong message not to start seeing things my way. And, judging by your following posts, you did appear to try make up for it by changing your tone (or perception) to one that would be more to her liking.

I find it useful to remind myself that when a person speaks, it says more about the person than the content. Neurolinguistic Programming tells us that 80% of our conclusions are based on our history and the filters we carry based on our life experience. Given that, it is difficult to really know what someone "means" when they say something, unless we question them and clarify through that process.

We all are apparently speaking English, but what we mean is usually differently interpreted by each person. That is what makes discussion, especially just written discussion, so difficult, although interesting.

BTW I did not interpret GG's comment as being a shouted one, but rather an emphatic one that demonstrated her strong belief in the cycle of life/death. It also gave her a chance to be wishful despite the belief.

Just another perspective.


LW888

It was meant as a loving comment to a very nice girl. Pure and simple.

So, lightworker, if I say you are full of bull, that might just mean that I think you ate beef for lunch?

Well, I could see that you tried to balance it by using the term "sweetie" at the end. That cancels out or balances the strong command?

PL--lighten up! :) It is impossible to interpret the tone and mood of a comment that is in print! Gracie meant no harm--she was, in fact, complimenting Quirky! I think you are speaking out of turn when you assign terms like Controlling and subservient !!

I hardly think you can diagnose a type A personality on their way to a heart attack from print, as well.
Anger and stress are also major factors in heart conditions. Something to think about.

I have met Gracie. She is anything but a type A personality! She is kind, relaxed, and generous!
This thread has ceased to be blissful or enjoyable, so I will cease reading it, but I respect your right to carry-on.

Frankly, I didn't see anything in the "spirit" of the Longevity Project. I saw it as a poor attempt to pretend it connected to the Longevity Project when in reality it was bashing two people for differing points of view. With generosity of spirit, the two people who were the focus of these attacks did not respond in kind... exhibiting graciousness ..not weakness.

And I am quite sure I am not the only person who recognizes the reality of those attacks and the substantially inadequate justification.

Well, thank you for allowing me to carry-on. You said kind, relaxed, and generous. I have no doubt that you are being truthful in saying that. But there's no reason to control someone who's like minded. Those of us who disagree (are not like minded) get a much different treatment.

This thread has become hopelessly off topic and addressing numerous individuals. Thread will be closed.

Feel free start a new thread with fresh, non personal material.

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