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DDVeteran 05-14-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1764799)
Actually, the masks have a useful purpose in the appropriate setting. Yes, viruses are very small, but they are spread in small droplets when a person coughs or sneezes, and even in some cases talking, especially if the spit when pronouncing "P's" The mask will stop them from spreading it to OTHER people. It does little to protect the person wearing the mask

Over 99% of all human to human viral transmission occurs indoors. So wearing a mask when you cannot guarantee 6 foot spacing at all times indoors makes some degree of sense. Outdoors they are basically useless. Yet some rec center rules require them outdoors---probably politics vs. science. Then there are those that seem to live in a mask---driving their car, cart or bicycle, walking, etc. That's fine if it makes them happy, not as fine if they feel obligated to say something to other people not wearing a mask, who clearly have a better understanding of epidemiology than they do.

Personally, I wear a mask at grocery store and retail store, if only out of respect to those who are a bit afraid. I never wear it outdoors since the facts show it is unnecessary. But I don't think anyone should summarily dismiss masks all together.

The most intelligent and sensible post on this subject I have read on TOTV.

golfing eagles 05-14-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DDVeteran (Post 1764850)
The most intelligent and sensible post on this subject I have read on TOTV.

TY, Father Sanducci

DeanFL 05-14-2020 09:06 AM

a short video showing mask vs. no mask>


Wearing mask vs not wearing mask - YouTube

golfing eagles 05-14-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1764858)
a short video showing mask vs. no mask>


Wearing mask vs not wearing mask - YouTube

Aha, You Tube----the DEFINITIVE source authority for all medical information :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-14-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolSells (Post 1764830)
Well, what I was wondering about in regards to masks and gloves is that if they’re so effective why can’t we just issue them to our prison populations instead of letting them back into society? They could social distance unless they,re cell mates.

(The letters and punctuation are not coming out right.)

Because prisoners don't get room service or curb-side pickup. Because prisoners don't get their exercise in any of dozens of public parks where it's easy to spread out. Because prisoners don't get to use their own personal living room to watch TV, use a computer, or even use a telephone. They don't even get their own shower.

Prisoners are in prison. A lot of people all bunched up together. Doing things as groups.

Velvet 05-14-2020 09:15 AM

The change regarding masks was a result of newer information about the virus.

JoMar 05-14-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1764748)
We initially were told by the surgeon general and also some of the doctors on the presidents team that wearing masks was unnecessary and that their only value was primarily psychological. They were not lying to you!
Why did they change this? Who knows... maybe to appease a paranoid population? 99% of the face coverings I see are useless. Viruses are microbial. You can not hide from them. How long is it going to take for this ridiculous paranoia about a virus that is 99% survivable to go away? I am somewhat encouraged as I am seeing more and more folks like myself that have discarded the masks.

Thanks for looking out for us :(

graciegirl 05-14-2020 09:18 AM

On the Today show this morning; 5/14/20 there was an interview with a physician.
 
The interview with this physician, Dr. Joseph Fair, who is a contributor to NBC was conducted from his hospital bed on Today, today.. He is 42, a runner and in good health. He was just released last night from intensive care and still has a way to go to recover.. Here you can hear his views on masks etc. He says Covid-19 can enter through the eyes too. He also says that he has been tested four times and each time got a false negative. He treated himself at home for five days after getting sick after a flight. On the fifth day he had to be taken by ambulance to the hospital because he was having difficulty breathing. See here;

Dr. Joseph Fair: ’Best guess’ is I got coronavirus through my eyes

Sorry. He was interviewed also by Savannah and Hoda and in that interview he said more about masks.

I say wear them. Unless you want to have a bigger chance to die. That is it, pure and simple.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-14-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1764876)
The interview with this physician who is a contributor to NBC was conducted from his hospital bed on Today, today.. He is 42, a runner and in good health. He was just released last night from critical care and still has a way to go to recover.. Here you can hear his views on masks etc. He says Covid-19 can enter through the eyes too. He also says that he has been tested four times and each time got a false negative. He treated himself at home for five days after getting sick after a flight. On the fifth day he had to be taken by ambulance to the hospital because he was having difficulty breathing. See here;

Dr. Joseph Fair: ’Best guess’ is I got coronavirus through my eyes

That's why they warn people to wear disposable gloves, SANITIZE their gloves if they can't dispose of them immediately after use, and to use sanitizer and wash their hands regularly, and NOT touch their eyes.

You get the virus on your hands, and then rub an itch in your eye, and you could easily transfer the virus to your eye.

That is the #1 way conjunctivitis is spread; someone with pink-eye rubs their eye - it gets on their hand, they shake your hand, you rub an itch on your eye, and boom. You now have conjunctivitis.

graciegirl 05-14-2020 09:41 AM

Here is the interview with Dr. Joseph Fair that I think gives more info.
 
dr. joseph fair - Bing video

Rwirish 05-15-2020 05:14 AM

As more is learned about this new virus guidelines have and will continue to change.

crash 05-15-2020 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1764748)
We initially were told by the surgeon general and also some of the doctors on the presidents team that wearing masks was unnecessary and that their only value was primarily psychological. They were not lying to you!
Why did they change this? Who knows... maybe to appease a paranoid population? 99% of the face coverings I see are useless. Viruses are microbial. You can not hide from them. How long is it going to take for this ridiculous paranoia about a virus that is 99% survivable to go away? I am somewhat encouraged as I am seeing more and more folks like myself that have discarded the masks.

The mask is not to protect you from the virus but to protect others from getting it from you. That is why at first they said you did not need it. They then discovered that you could be infectious without symptoms so recommended everyone wear a mask. So you are basically saying to everyone screw you I don’t care if you get the virus by not wearing the mask.

You do not need to wear the mask unless you are going to be in close contact with others. Is it really such a big deal to show respect to others by wearing a mask?

Trump doesn’t wear a mask but everyone that comes in contact with him does.

coalminer 05-15-2020 06:14 AM

You can believe the scientists and medical experts or others who have their own agenda and may bend reality to accomplish it. That's your choice. But remember, you may be betting your life on it.

CarolSells 05-15-2020 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1764862)
Because prisoners don't get room service or curb-side pickup. Because prisoners don't get their exercise in any of dozens of public parks where it's easy to spread out. Because prisoners don't get to use their own personal living room to watch TV, use a computer, or even use a telephone. They don't even get their own shower.

Prisoners are in prison. A lot of people all bunched up together. Doing things as groups.

Oh. Like groups at the grocery, or groups at the dog parks, or groups at the pools. I see.

Dave Laluk 05-15-2020 06:26 AM

I will continue to wear a mask in public to protect my neighbors, their kids and grandkids IN CASE I'M INFECTED AND NOT SHOWING SYMPTOMS. Imagine if I happened to infect one of your grandchildren...… I would feel terrible.

If I am showing symptoms, I will stay at home for at least two weeks or until they are gone. (Or I die) The simple masks do little to nothing to protect the person wearing them. People who are not wearing masks in public are putting the rest of us at risk.


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