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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1766006)

Go back and read some of the older threads, there were all kinds of people claiming that a mask would prevent you from being infected.

It beats the hell out of nothing.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1765952)

Mm, not exactly. I'll see if I can help you understand it a wee bit better.

With a prison situation, there is a very limited amount of space the prisoners are provided to occupy. They can't choose which store to go to, they are not given permission to decide when to eat, or where, or even how. They eat where and when they're ordered to eat, and they eat what they are given to eat, or they go hungry.

Outside in the rest of the world, we can choose this supermarket or that one. We can see that it's more crowded at 3pm and choose to go at 2pm instead, if we wish. We can buy fresh meat if we feel it's safe, or we can buy frozen patties if we are more comfortable with that choice. We can cook those burgers at 5 in the kitchen, or we can cook them outside on the grill at 7:30. Or, we can do curbside, or we can do inside, or outside dining at a restaurant, or have it delivered. We are not required to have the entire neighborhood line up outside Burger King in single-file and order a plain double cheeseburger, small fry, and small diet coke, then gather together at the only 5 tables in the entire restaurant and spend exactly 10 minutes eating, before we are required to get up and leave single file back to our jail cells.

In a prison situation, you have no options. You are forced to either all be together, or be in your cell with your cell mate, or you're in a solitary confinement situation, seeing no one else but the guard who brings you your meal.

This means - there is a much better opportunity for free folks like us to spread out and NOT be in close crowded proximity with each other. Unlike prisoners, who are not given that option.

You seem to have forgotten one other very important option; "I'll see if I can help you understand it a wee bit better".

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time! These folks you are so worried about, have a proven track record of being predators, for the most part and you seem less than hesitant to applaud their release back into society to prow on law-abiding citizens. Some of these folks are serious felons and are not concerned that the churches are still closed (if you get my drift). Was your concern as heightened when many states placed CV-19 positive patients into nursing homes, like in PA, which resulted in 2/3 of the known deaths from Covid … just sayin'

Fred

Masks don’t stop the virus particles directly if they are in the air but do a good job of blocking the droplets that we expel when coughing, sneezing (or singing) that carry them. Experts (who originally urged not wearing them so there would be enough for front line healthcare workers) now agree we should wear them. See the video here to understand why. A mask in my view, protects others 80% and you 20%. Your mask protects me 80% from your virus and you 20% from mine. PREVENT THE SPREAD: Wear a mask to prevent infection - YouTube

Do you wear a seatbelt?

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1764748)

We initially were told by the surgeon general and also some of the doctors on the presidents team that wearing masks was unnecessary and that their only value was primarily psychological. They were not lying to you!
Why did they change this? Who knows... maybe to appease a paranoid population? 99% of the face coverings I see are useless. Viruses are microbial. You can not hide from them. How long is it going to take for this ridiculous paranoia about a virus that is 99% survivable to go away? I am somewhat encouraged as I am seeing more and more folks like myself that have discarded the masks.

Do you wear a seatbelt? Do you use a child's safety seat in your car, if you transport babies? Do you wear sunscreen? Do you look at the eclipse of the Sun without protection? Do you wear protection when...?

Amazing, you would never believe common sense would become a P statement,but somehow the masks have been made into that.

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1771860)

Amazing, you would never believe common sense would become a P statement, but somehow the masks have been made into that.

You just don't understand.

I can look tougher, more manly and partially assuage my massive insecurities...if I don't wear a mask in public.

Especially if I can have every other single person who might come within a mile of me...wear their masks to protect me.

See how easy now...that is to understand?

And good on Fauci, for having the bravery to say basically the same thing...in public. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1771848)

Excellent points Ben. :ho:

There is a glaring irony in this mask mess.

How many people who would like to go out and spend some money will not do so because they do not want to encounter anti-maskers who can cause them risk.

Anti-maskers hurt brick and mortar businesses while Amazon makes more money than ever. How’s that for irony.

By the way, Typhoid Mary was asymptomatic.

When I am seeking direction on what to do in the face of a virus that kills people, particularly the highest percent of people it infects who are over 65, I do not look to politicians, I look to science and to the experts who try to make sense of this virus which is completely new on this planet and is still not completely understood. I know that not even those who specialize in epidemics did not have a true handle on Covid-19 early on and we were struggling at first to dispense face masks that were early in March in short supply. Even now the experts are still not saying with certainty what the virus does, still studying unusual symptoms like blood clots in all ages, and Kawasaki Syndrome in little ones, so I think that people at risk will continue to err on the side of caution, hoping to hear good news and valid facts soon from the mish mash of what is real and what is conspiracy theory.

Here is something released from Dr. Fauci, who should know better than most people, how to direct us;

Dr. Anthony Fauci on How America Can Avoid a Second Wave of the Coronavirus

I think some people could say the same thing I just said and you still want to bite them. It's all in the attitude.

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1771950)

When I am seeking direction on what to do in the face of a virus that kills people, particularly 80% percent of people it infects who are over
65

Whoa horsey!

The percentage of all covid deaths is 80% for people over 65.

The death rate for people over 65 who catch covid 19 is 1.3%

COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios | CDC

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1771963)

Whoa horsey!

The percentage of all covid deaths is 80% for people over 65.

The death rate for people over 65 who catch covid 19 is 1.3%

COVID-19 Pandemic Planning Scenarios | CDC

I believe that is what she said !!!!!!

What is the point you wish to make about masks ???

"Dr. Anthony Fauci on Wednesday called for a cautious approach to reopening the US and implored Americans to wear face masks in public.."

Fauci says he wears a mask to be a symbol of what 'you should be doing' - CNNPolitics

And please do not come back with another abridged Fauci quote. Stick with facts, not fiction.

"Virginians will soon be required to wear face masks in public to help curb the spread of the novel coronavirus, Gov. Ralph Northam announced on Tuesday."

Virginia mandates coronavirus face masks as state sees biggest daily spike in new cases | Fox News

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1771970)

I believe that is what she said !!!!!!

she said this "virus that kills people, particularly 80% percent of people it infects who are over 65

Try to stick with facts, not fiction :)

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1771977)

she said this "virus that kills people, particularly 80% percent of people it infects who are over 65

Try to stick with facts, not fiction :)

The thread subject is MASKS, not percentages

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1764748)

I am unsure as to why you started this thread.
1) was it to encourage people to discontinue wearing their masks?
2) was it to make fun of people who wear masks?
3) are you trying to validate your reason for *not* wearing a mask?

Why do you care, either way?

At a doctor's appointment this morning I witnessed a woman who tried to enter the check in area without a mask. She was asked if she had one....she did not...they offered her one which she accepted with a huff!!!

Additional stress for our front line health providers to contend with.

I applaud the businesses and medical facilities that REQUIRE masks before entering.

How many folks yap about following the science .....but in the face of the science behind wearing a mask, there are so many non conformists.

Stupid cannot be fixed.