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nututv 06-16-2020 11:20 AM
With the amount of information that is out on the subject of wearing a mask or not, does the subject need to be regurgitated again and again... and again? Minds aren't going to be changed at this point I don't believe. It's just another internet squabble that in the end wont change a thing but create more division among people. Don't we have enough of that already?

coffeebean 06-16-2020 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scottvs1961 (Post 1785297)
While I am sure I will not be allowed to post a link since I am a newbie here. Hopefully you can copy and paste this into a browser.

This is a recent research article on the transmission of the COVID-19 virus.

Identifying airborne transmission as the dominant route for the spread of COVID-19 | PNAS
I must admit, I did not read the entire research article. I did, however, jump to "The Conclusions". Here is an excerpt from "The Conclusions".This is worth the read..........

We conclude that wearing of face masks in public corresponds to the most effective means to prevent interhuman transmission, and this inexpensive practice, in conjunction with extensive testing, quarantine, and contact tracking, poses the most probable fighting opportunity to stop the COVID-19 pandemic, prior to the development of a vaccine. It is also important to emphasize that sound science should be effectively communicated to policy makers and should constitute the prime foundation in decision-making amid this pandemic. Implementing policies without a scientific basis could lead to catastrophic consequences, particularly in light of attempts to reopen the economy in many countries. Clearly, integration between science and policy is crucial to formulation of effective emergency responses by policy makers and preparedness by the public for the current and future public health pandemics.

SUENRAN 06-16-2020 11:30 AM
Opinion? Let's look at Facts
 
You may want to see what OSHA has to say. OSHA Standard 29CFR1910.134. Having been in the first responder for most of my life, I'll continue wearing my N-95!

jimjamuser 06-16-2020 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1785360)
With the amount of information that is out on the subject of wearing a mask or not, does the subject need to be regurgitated again and again... and again? Minds aren't going to be changed at this point I don't believe. It's just another internet squabble that in the end wont change a thing but create more division among people. Don't we have enough of that already?
Science changes when necessary. Public minds stay calcified for very long.

nututv 06-16-2020 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1785384)
Science changes when necessary. Public minds stay calcified for very long.
In the current state of things, even science is difficult to define.

coffeebean 06-16-2020 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1785360)
With the amount of information that is out on the subject of wearing a mask or not, does the subject need to be regurgitated again and again... and again? Minds aren't going to be changed at this point I don't believe. It's just another internet squabble that in the end wont change a thing but create more division among people. Don't we have enough of that already?
IMHO, yes it most certainly does. Seems there are too many people who either deny or are just not informed of the science of mask wearing. More and more information is available now than when this pandemic first arrived in America.

matandch 06-16-2020 12:08 PM
My gut tells me that me I f we stay on the current path, there will be 20,000-30,000 cases in TV by next April with 700-1000 deaths.

nututv 06-16-2020 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1785393)
IMHO, yes it most certainly does. Seems there are too many people who either deny or are just not informed of the science of mask wearing. More and more information is available now than when this pandemic first arrived in America.
Like overeating, wearing seat belts and abusing drugs? Those have been preached now for how many decades? Obesity is at an all time high, tickets are still being written and are a major source of income for the police and the drug problem is worse than it's ever been.
Seems repeating the message isn't working so well. I don't know what the answer is but I know what isn't working.

ffresh 06-16-2020 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1785220)
A funny thread really. Everything from the sky is falling to no way. I'm on more of the no way side. Masks, lock-downs, groups being unlawful... (unless you're protesting of course). It's all just a social experiment in controlling.
'Mask shamers' (yeah, that's a term now)
I was told I was taking chances not wearing a mask a few weeks back by a lady that had to be 100 lb overweight. She nearly screamed at my reply, I'll bet she hasn't 'shamed' since. lol
I'm in my early 60's, I'm active, very fit and haven't so much as had a cold in years. In the past 15 days, I've paddled probably 100 miles and cycled probably 60. I would have done much more but the afternoon storms keep me in more than I'd like.
The obesity rate in America is at 40 percent. An estimated 300,000 deaths per year are caused by it. If you have a 'condition' due to your being too fat (diabetes etc.) that has put you at risk of getting the flu... hey wait a minute, you mean you've been ignoring your body for decades but now it's my responsibility to keep you healthy? haha No!
I can guarantee everyone here is going to die of something. You can sit there and put blame on someone else or just man up and put blame on yourself.
Life is like a sail. You can hang around that mast until you dry rot or you can go out in tatters, shredded from the winds. I prefer the windy ocean thank you.
And on a side note. I've handled far too many masks and blue gloves these past few months myself. From parking lots, to trails, beaches and even one probably a mile out in the gulf.
I don't know if I'm the first, but permit me to congratulate you on an EXCELLENT post - one of the best I've read (and I've read many) :clap2::clap2:

Fred

ffresh 06-16-2020 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by matandch (Post 1785226)
Just you wait and see!
OK, you've piqued my curiosity … see what? :shocked:

Fred

nututv 06-16-2020 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ffresh (Post 1785413)
I don't know if I'm the first, but permit me to congratulate you on an EXCELLENT post - one of the best I've read (and I've read many) :clap2::clap2:

Fred
haha. My posts (and myself) have been called many things. Never excellent. Thanks, I appreciate it.

donassaid 06-16-2020 01:48 PM
The ONLY people who should be wearing masks are those who know they have the virus. Wearing a mask will not keep you from getting the virus but can cause a myriad of problems by breathing in your own carbon dioxide, including a weakened immune system as well as pleurisy. Since the virus can only survive 90 seconds in hear and humidity, it is ridiculous to wear a mask outside. But wear one if you like. Just don't try to force others to do the same.

Slapnut 06-16-2020 02:20 PM
The problem with wearing them is that you are constantly breathing your own nitrogen which disrupts your pH balance in the body. You're not getting the amount of oxygen to your brain that you normally do. It's going to be too late when people start having problems due to misconceptions about needing to wear these useless masks. Ask any doctor or nurse.

ColdNoMore 06-16-2020 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Slapnut (Post 1785483)
The problem with wearing them is that you are constantly breathing your own nitrogen which disrupts your pH balance in the body. You're not getting the amount of oxygen to your brain that you normally do. It's going to be too late when people start having problems due to misconceptions about needing to wear these useless masks. Ask any doctor or nurse.

I (as I'm sure many others) would be very interested, given that doctors and nurses wear masks all day these days, in a legitimate/scientific link...that proves your assertion(s). :popcorn:

nututv 06-16-2020 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1785508)

I (as I'm sure many others) would be very interested, given that doctors and nurses wear masks all day these days, in a legitimate/scientific link...that proves your assertion(s). :popcorn:
Look up shallow breathing/breathers. I am one, it's an issue that I have to see a professional for monthly. It's a real thing and mine is not caused by any diseases (well not completely anyway), simply the way my body works... or doesn't I should say.


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