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Indydealmaker 10-15-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 953170)
You cannot stop planes coming into this country. As you well know, planes do not make direct flights from one country to another, they frequently stop in various destinations on the way to the USA and then into Europe. How are you thinking we are going to stop this virus from traveling across the world?

Also, let's not forget cargo ships which travel from port to port picking up and delivering, their staff go off the ship in these ports and come into contact with many virus'/infections which then go back onto the ship and continue on to their next port of call.

There is no easy fix for this problem and I don't think we know anything about how to stop it spreading, and I'm sure if the Government knew how to contain it they would gladly do so. It is going to end up costing thousands of dollars before this is done.

Each person originating from an infected area of the world and/or stopping there have a stamp on their passport. Using this information, each of those individuals could be quarantined upon their arrival to the U.S. If they don't want to be quarantined, then they have that choice by not attempting entry to the states.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-15-2014 09:33 AM

Blah, blah, blah, blah....anything but answer the questions. Even after Lauer stop her and said, "Madam Secretary, with all due respect, you did not answer my question" she continued with more blah, blah blah. I was really disappointed that Lauer didn't call her on that. He really should have asked, "So do you intend to answer my question or not?"

As much as he appeared to be a bit impatient, it was really a pretty weak interview. As far as "with all due respect" he should have given her as much respect as she gave his questions. After not answering him twice, he should have lit into her. Politicians don't answer questions and and reporters continue to allow them to get away with it.

Madelaine Amee 10-15-2014 09:37 AM

Closing airports in England and France to flights from Africa is just another political ploy which makes them look good to their citizens, they can close off direct flights to their airports and what about the airports in Europe where they can easily get off one plane and get on another from Turkey, Spain, Germany, Greece, Italy and come into England and France? Plus, let us not forget that the European passport will let you cross borders from one country to another.

Ebola is a plague, just like any of the other plague. It thrives in filth, open sewers, body fluids from one person to another. What we really need to do is find the antibiotic to help to control it and I am sure this is #1 in the science field.

What I think we ought to do with Ebola is bottle it - drop it on Isis and sit back and wait ............... this is tongue in cheek ............ not serious, but wishful thinking on my part!

graciegirl 10-15-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 953224)
Closing airports in England and France to flights from Africa is just another political ploy which makes them look good to their citizens, they can close off direct flights to their airports and what about the airports in Europe where they can easily get off one plane and get on another from Turkey, Spain, Germany, Greece, Italy and come into England and France? Plus, let us not forget that the European passport will let you cross borders from one country to another.

Ebola is a plague, just like any of the other plague. It thrives in filth, open sewers, body fluids from one person to another. What we really need to do is find the antibiotic to help to control it and I am sure this is #1 in the science field.

What I think we ought to do with Ebola is bottle it - drop it on Isis and sit back and wait ............... this is tongue in cheek ............ not serious, but wishful thinking on my part!


A virus does not respond to an antibiotic. The spread has nothing to do with filth. It is a microorganism that is 90 percent deadly to those who are infected. There is a way to keep people safer other than taking their temperatures at airports.

NotGolfer 10-15-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shrandell (Post 953209)
Many of us "spoke" here recently of dangerous days to come. They are here and I am grateful of my Faith.

I agree with MANY of the comments on this post! My take too is "fear is a way of control" as well! In the Bible it speaks of a plague in the 'last days'...many had thought that HIV might be that plague but......
Just wondering!!

Shrandell...I too am grateful for my Faith!!

gomoho 10-15-2014 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=Madelaine Amee;953224]Closing airports in England and France to flights from Africa is just another political ploy which makes them look good to their citizens, they can close off direct flights to their airports and what about the airports in Europe where they can easily get off one plane and get on another from Turkey, Spain, Germany, Greece, Italy and come into England and France? Plus, let us not forget that the European passport will let you cross borders from one country to another.

Why wouldn't the previous post of not allowing anyone in the country that has a stamp on their passport from Liberia be denied entrance to the US work? I'm sure word would spread like wildfire "don't try to get in the US". At least it is something better than taking people's temperatures and relying on them to be truthful. We saw how that worked out with Mr. Duncan.

jflynn1 10-15-2014 11:27 AM

What would make you happy ? What would you suggest?
The news organizations are doing a great job playing monday morning quaterbacks.
Perhaps they shopuld go back to just reporting the news.
To many with opinions of their own with very little to back them up.
I think everyone is doing the best they can in a situation that we have never faced before. .
JS Flynn

Bizdoc 10-15-2014 11:37 AM

But it isn't the first time that we have faced large numbers of people who may have been exposed to highly contagious diseases. Ellis Island and other "receiving stations" were created for just that purpose.

Two things happened. We became convinced that everything could be cured with a pill or a shot. And the politicats decided that having a large Public Health Service cost too much. So... in the late 60s and 70s, PHS was mostly dismantled, clinics, offices, and hospitals closed. CDC was expected to be able to sit back and handle the few cases of infectious diseases that made to the US.

Sound like hubris? It is. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

CFrance 10-15-2014 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 953219)
Each person originating from an infected area of the world and/or stopping there have a stamp on their passport. Using this information, each of those individuals could be quarantined upon their arrival to the U.S. If they don't want to be quarantined, then they have that choice by not attempting entry to the states.

Yes, Indy, but the stamps are not placed in any particular order. I'm looking at my passport now, and it took me a good while to find the stamp from last night in Miami when we came home from Europe. On the first page, for instance, are stamps from 2008, 2012, 2013. Next page has two from '14. Page after that is '09. Page after that is '13. In 2000, when we drove from Italy to Switzerland, the Swiss didn't even stamp our passports at the border. They looked, but they didn't stamp. And some of the stamps are barely legible because the ink needed to be changed in the stamper or they stamped across the fold.

There's usually 350-500 people coming off a plane from overseas. It would be a logistical nightmare to find where each person had been by checking their passports. And like somebody else mentioned, you could have been in Africa, flown to, say, Amsterdam, waited a day or two, changed airlines/itineraries altogether and come to the states.

If I were someone getting sick in Africa, I would lie, dissemble, use whatever means possible to get to a first-world country where the absolute best medical care would be available.

Perhaps keeping planes from these African countries from landing in the states would look good and ease people's fear; I personally don't believe it would stop the spread.

kittygilchrist 10-15-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 953199)
The person being interviewed is the head of Health and Human Services not the CDC. That to me is somewhat a relief. I am sorry that I posted incorrectly.

She sure wasn't a person that I would put my trust in.

I walked in after the beginning of the interview and incorrectly surmised she was in charge of the CDC.

She is "Madame Secretary" because she is in charge of Health and Human Services I don't like her.

HHS secretary on Ebola: 'I do have confidence in the CDC' - Video on TODAY.com

Cdc head is apologetic for being reactive vs proactive. Potus talked to him 40 seconds and went golfing after 1 st nurse victim identified.
Gov is joke upon joke. Spokesperson for WH looks like a complete idiot still, today, we are a laughingstock, sitting duck and a mockery of democracy.

maddie101 10-15-2014 02:55 PM

Customs scans the bar code. Wouldn't first point of entry in USA know where you were the past 21 days?

perrjojo 10-16-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by maddie101 (Post 953351)
Customs scans the bar code. Wouldn't first point of entry in USA know where you were the past 21 days?

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YES!

CFrance 10-16-2014 07:47 PM

Some countries don't scan. Your history would then not show up upon entry into the US. For instance, nobody knew we left Italy and entered Switzerland--nothing stamped or scanned when we left one and entered the other.


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