Ahh but the real truth is here.....

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I wouldn’t go back to the person who gave you the injection. They sound clumsy! Mine was a quick jab near the top of the shoulder, seriously less than a small mosquito bite. Both times by different people. The next day the muscle in that arm was sore as if I had an upper arm workout at the gym. That was it. The soreness was from the vaccine not the clumsy injector. Gone soon after.

Yes, quarantines for the sick not the healthy. What we experienced last year was the first time the government quarantined healthy people en masse during the lockdowns. That's not the way it's supposed to work or the way you achieve herd immunity, for that matter.

I'm vaccinated too but I also realize, and more are beginning to realize as this unfolds, that it may not offer long-lasting protection. Everyone has to come to grips with that fact and adjust. That means focusing on better treatments because the sad reality is that we will all likely contract a form of COVID to some degree, vaccinated or not.

COVID is a coronavirus like the common cold which there never has been a vaccine for so this is new territory for everyone including scientists and doctors. It's the nature of these vaccines that's worrying. While some even doubt the wisdom, efficacy or benefits of getting the seasonal flu vaccines, mRNA is entirely different and maybe getting multiple boosters of genetic-based shot is not the best thing for our immune systems. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise because as we are seeing they don't know themselves.

I have a friend who works for the FDA and works with pharm companies. Very smart guy who has his PhD in the computer tech side of medicine/science. I ran into him in January. He was double-masked and certainly not a COVID denier. When I asked his opinion on the new vaccines they were rolling out, he said he was getting it and urged me to as well but also said the pharm companies, scientists, etc. "just don't know" about long-term efficacy, side effects, etc. (said it to me twice for emphasis) but it was all they had at the moment.

I had Covid in December and just recently gave blood it showed antibodies 1 and 2 still in my system same for my husband. I too would like to see a study on this.

Your comment is not funny to the hundred of thousands of people who have been injured. People in wheel chairs, some shaking so bad they can't function, horrible rashes all over their bodies, not to mention the thousands who have died after getting the injection. The adverse reactions are listed on the CDC website und VEARS, however they have removed some to protect themselves. The covid virus has never been isolated. The NIH said this & they were doing so many cycles at first that it was picking up any tiny spec of cold, flu and so forth. The info is out there if you would look for yourself & not believe what people who have a vested interest financially are telling you. No proof masks work either. A virus tiny a cloth mask, or any mask is protecting you. If you can see this is about a new world order & getting us under control, our country is done.

With my 2nd shot I had terrible arm pain immediately, then a sore, swollen, inflamed arm for over a week and a lump developed at the injection site. I reported it to VAERS.

AMEN, no matter your belief you can find a study or articles backing your point of view. Time to stop pushing your beliefs on people and let them decide for themselves.

I guess that technically side effects COULD be construed as "injuries." Your reply "injured" my sensitivities. :cry:

I get a flu shot every year, because the virus mutates. I would expect the same with this virus since we didn't kill it, before it mutated.

Glad you get your flu shot. I totally advocate for flu shots for other folks that have sensitive health issues. Never had the flu and don't get the shot, but I did get the shingles shot and pneumonia shot. Had to get all kinds of shots when traveling overseas, but keep them to a minimum now. I consider vaccinations to be wonder drugs and a miracle. Why don't I get the flu shot? Never felt the need for it since I have been around folks suffering from the flu and never caught it. Maybe that will change if I ever catch the flu AND survive.Glad to see folks trying to be safe. I am not an Anti-Vaxxer, just haven't decided to get some vaccinations. My family tends to live long lives, in the 90's on average.

At least COVID deaths are down and even though the infection rate has risen, deaths from COVID are still down. That's a good thing.

Covid deaths have increased steadily for throat past three weeks.

Increased as compared to what number?

Steadily increased means day over day or week over week. Look at the daily averages for 7/25, 8/1, 8/8, and today. The JHU Covid tracker has a graph that is easy to read.

Ok, one is an increase over whatever other number you start with. Fear mongering when the numbers are showing an overall great trend is not good for anyone. If you wish to suggest an increase then I will suggest that the numbers are minute compared to last Jan.

Not fear mongering, just verifiable data. I am not suggesting an increase, I am pointing to the data that show an increase.

Deaths lag cases by about three weeks and since cases have been climbing these past three weeks so deaths will likely climb too. The current peak isn't as high as Jan but it may not be done climbing yet. Thankfully, it looks like the death rate is not quite as high as the last surge but that is little consolation for the hundreds daily that are losing family members.

The only ones who seem to need to fear are those that rolled the dice and chose to not be vaccinated. Fortunately, vaccinations are on the rise too.

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We currently go to Mayo at least once a month for treatment and have been going to them for over 5 years. At our last visit one of the Doctors we see advised us to wear masks as things are getting worse. The Dr. was quite serious as opposed to a casual piece of advice. Within the last couple of weeks a rule has been passed at Mayo that all employees must be vaccinated. When there you must wear a mask. It is beyond selfish and uncaring to refuse to wear a mask to protect others and to refuse to get a vaccination given the level of concern by the medical world! This is not a game, it is the real world and it is too late when your in the hospital on all sorts of equipment to say you should have followed the advice. :ohdear:

Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination ?


ADE..Look Out

This reaction is forever...you can't go back once jabbed....watch out!

You have been posting things like this for a while now,
is there anything that shows this is real and not just wishful thinking? Over 160M vaccinations, over 36M cases, over a month of Delta circulation, and over 60,000 currently hospitalized - how large do the numbers need to be before this can be put to bed?

How about preliminary...

How about you answer my question posed in the past. What kind of doctor are you? What training do you have in virology or epidemiology or infectious disease. You stick DR in your name but refuse to give your qualifications. Highly suspicious that you want readers to see you as a qualified expert but won't tell us what you are?

You post garbage like the image in the above post which in tiny print says it was from October 2020, before the vaccines were released and before the FDA had given them emergency authorization. The screen shot shows a list of POTENTIAL side effects that the FDA would be watching for once the shots were released. It shows the FDA knows that vaccines are not 100% safe and that certain rare reactions may not show up in clinical trials but only once larger numbers are vaccinated.

What that chart does NOT SHOW is that those side effects are actually occurring which you strongly suggest with every misleading post you make about them. Your continuous harping on the VAERS reports shows an abject ignorance about how VAERS gets its data. Anyone, any person whether a doctor or a patient or a friend or someone who wants to make stuff up can submit a report to VAERS where it will be accepted. There is no verification of those reports required to be accepted. You can lie and post all the serious stuff you can make up if you are an anti-vaxer and there it is on VAERS. While the government agency does follow up on the submitted reports, the result of those investigations is NOT posted to the VAERS website. So a wrong attribution, eg I broke my toe because the shot weakened my bones, stays up forever.

So Doctor, tell me and all your readers about your educational background, just a summary like what kind of doctor you might be. Dr J was a great basketball player but I wouldn't use him for medical decision making. Dr King was a great orator and civil rights leader, but I wouldn't trust him for virology advise. Or maybe you're embarrassed about your degree, or plain don't have one and are hiding behind a bogus screen name.

VAERS........ I am not posting much about that reporting system.

At this point, nonsense posts such as these are tatamoint to screaming fire in a crowded theater...

Medical workers are exhausted, this wave of infections could have been avoided. Many are ready to walk away from those who don't believe in protecting themselves.

Well that was an interesting reply to my post asking that you explain your supposed credentials. Completely ignored that didn't you. And you have posted about VAERS just as I wrote and as you acknowledged.

Like this gem:

Where you tell your readers that the VAERS data under reports and because you are so much more qualified than the people at the FDA, those who've devoted their professional careers to actually studying infectious disease, pharmacy, virology.... You have the unmitigated gall to suggest that based on your expert opinion as a "doctor" that if the FDA approves the vaccines they are no longer trustworthy.

I know who is on my list of untrustworthy. Do you know what the time period between the phase three trials of the polio vaccine and approval and a massive federal and state plan to give that completely new kind of vaccine to children was? Should the FDA have withheld its approval for 5 or 10 years to see how those kids who were in the phase three trials did over time to be sure there were not some very long range concerns? Maybe you can look it up and report back on how long the government took to approve a vaccine that was killing.. wait for it.... about 3,000 people a year in this country.

We have had over 40,000 deaths from COVID in Florida alone, but you'd like the FDA to wait how long? If they wait one year you'll demand 2. If they wait two years you'll demand 5

Doctor Ducat, what length of time, based on your expertise in these fields, is long enough for the FDA to wait to give full approval to get your oh so important seal of excellence and stay on your trustworthy list? /s

That came directly from the FDA

Read it.....from Nature Mag...Very very possible yet to come.

Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies | Nature Microbiology

You have been posting things like this for a while now,
is there anything that shows this is real and not just wishful thinking? Over 160M vaccinations, over 36M cases, over a month of Delta circulation, and over 60,000 currently hospitalized - how large do the numbers need to be before this can be put to bed?

Your not understanding what triggers ADE....look it up...also look up Non Sterilizing vaccines..That will show what other issues we may have.

Also...Here is Fauci....


https://twitter.com/Angelasfreenews/...024276999?s=20

I believe one of the experts has already commented on your post - you chose to ignore them.

My google learning says ADE is always a concern (hence the pre-vaccine FDA "Draft" briefing slide) but that it can be ruled out after monitoring. As I wrote in my post, how many cases without ADE and how many vaccinated individuals with no sign of ADE and how many hospitalizations without a mention of ADE will it take before you stop crying that the sky is falling?

What is the date of that video? I know it was posted recently but I don't believe the White House Coronavirus Task Force has briefed in that setting since 2020. Since that time there have been the large number of vaccinations and cases - I imagine Fauci has gone on to worrying about more likely problems.
EDIT: Found the date, March 25, 2020 - very timely information you are passing around! Fauci also predicted at that time that vaccines would not be ready for 12 to 18 months (that would be between April 2021 and October 2021).

We have no experts on this forum period... Better yet look it up on Snopes.....No wait.

Don't cast your pearls before swine..........I need to take to heart

A Hungarian scientist invented the mRNA technology. Why does this Dr. Malone take the credit he is not due?

The story of mRNA: From a loose idea to a tool that may help curb Covid

Preach!

I don't believe it. When the J&J vaccine caused a few people to develop blood clots, they were very transparent about it. The vaccine roll out was paused. Do you honestly think a vaccine that caused 300,000 vaccine injuries would be hidden? I do not think so.

Oh Lordy......another fairy tale. Spare me the details. ROTFLMAO!

Did you say "elbow"? That is not anywhere near the supposed site of injection. Yikes!

Covid deaths are down because our many of our most vulnerable population are vaccinated. Declining deaths must be attributed to the vaccines.

Let me turn that around.......it is beyond foolish not to wear an N95 mask if you are not vaccinated or are worried that you may have a break through infection if you are vaccinated. Those who need the protection should protect THEMSELVES. Don't expect me to wear a mask to protect those who refuse to protect themselves with a vaccine. Sorry, NOT going to do it.

Having said that, I always comply with wearing a mask if an establishment or health care facility REQUIRES a mask. There must be a posted sign for me to don that mask.

There is no evidence that ADE is caused by mRNA vaccines.

Antibody-dependent Enhancement (ADE) and Vaccines | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

Key word is "possible".