Did you say "elbow"? That is not anywhere near the supposed site of injection. Yikes!

Covid deaths are down because our many of our most vulnerable population are vaccinated. Declining deaths must be attributed to the vaccines.

Let me turn that around.......it is beyond foolish not to wear an N95 mask if you are not vaccinated or are worried that you may have a break through infection if you are vaccinated. Those who need the protection should protect THEMSELVES. Don't expect me to wear a mask to protect those who refuse to protect themselves with a vaccine. Sorry, NOT going to do it.

Having said that, I always comply with wearing a mask if an establishment or health care facility REQUIRES a mask. There must be a posted sign for me to don that mask.

There is no evidence that ADE is caused by mRNA vaccines.

Antibody-dependent Enhancement (ADE) and Vaccines | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

Key word is "possible".

Very important line in the conclusion.......However, clinical data has not yet fully established a role for ADE in human COVID-19 pathology.

How can they know yet? Only time will tell. I think the picture will become clearer once booster shots are administered in the future with new/different spike protein.

How many millions of people have been vaccinated with mRNA vaccines world wide so far? That should be an excellent indication if ADE were a problem which it is not.

Cold season has not began, Boosters have not began and what is putting the vaccinated in the hospital with Covid19 or???

All we need is a multi protein vaccine or a good early treatment is what is needed......stay safe!

The fall cold season has not begun in the US but the vaccines spanned the spring cold season and the summer cold season. Plus, many colds do not respect their season and occur throughout the year.

But they have. Not officially, but many have been going back for third or more doses unofficially.

I imagine Covid is putting vaccinated people in the hospital with Covid. No vaccine is 100% effective. The efficacy of the vaccine (95% in the case of Pfizer) was determined by counting the number of vaccinated individuals who became sick during the trials. Since vaccinations began, only 8,054 vaccinated individuals have been hospitalized with Covid and only 1,587 have died; more than that many unvaccinated people have died since this thread began.

What we need is to stop raising baseless concerns in an attempt to scare people away from the vaccine. The more who get vaccinated, the fewer who get sick and the fewer who die.

Duh, did I say different? And yet some on here are saying that the deaths are on the increase and want everyone to panic.

Assuming you are referring to me.....

Deaths are on the increase - I've provided five sources. Can you provide two that say otherwise?

No one needs to panic but many need to go get vaccinated.

It's Comedy
 

If it weren't so serious a subject it would be a comedy to think of those who say there is no proof of the long term effects of being vaccinated therefore they ignore the need to get vaccinated HOWEVER they ignore the impact of the short term effect if you get the virus, like you die or are sick for a long period of time with a variety of ills. As they say you can't make this stuff up! Hey, wait. How about those who refuse to wear a mask and haven't because it is uncomfortable. Lets consider how uncomfortable it is lying in a bed in ICU in the hospital while trying to get your breath. Of course there is some unsavory things going on like overcharging, mid level Doctors acting like experts, the demand of a mask to enter a business, etc. Ahh, some of the above are getting back at them by not wearing a mask and not getting vaccinated. Their answer is to potentially die to get even. These are the same people who were acting out, crying, etc in the first grade when getting there vaccination and are fearful. Some may go so far as to smoke pot or use some other drug to escape life in general!:ho:

Want to help get everyone vaccinated just require vaccination before you get your welfare checks. Vaccinations are free too.

When COVID first came on the scene, my wife and I made the decision to actually LIVE our lives, not just to keep drawing breath while huddled behind some door, or mask, or whatever. We lived in Minnesota at the time and the panic hit full-bore up there. We wore masks where we were required to do so; places like the dentist waiting area, our family doctor's office, unavoidable government offices, etc. Otherwise, no. I have severe asthma as well as a coronary artery condition so wearing a mask is problematic for me; businesses up there recognized that fact and made exceptions for those of us with such conditions, so I rarely wore a mask even at the height of the original breakout. Moving to Florida last fall made mandated mask-wearing moot. My wife and I both had COVID. Not particularly fun but not the bubonic plague - level affliction one sort of suspected when reading the daily hype in local media. I've since had the vaccination; not because I particularly fear the medical consequences if I don't but because my family lives in Minnesota and there is always a chance that this-or-that state might start requiring proof of vaccination, and I guarantee that Minnesota would be one of the first to do that. My wife chose not to get the vaccination.

Bottom line: we've lived a very full life since the outbreak of the disease, to date. And we haven't regretted one minute of it. It is far better than to live in fear.

People are free to do whatever they think they should do to protect themselves from COVID. Wear masks, get vaccinations, don't touch anything in a public place without wearing gloves, disinfect your grocery cart handles, etc. etc. Hell, they can wear full-body condoms for all I care. But no one is going to tell me that must do similar things, or anything at all, because THEY fear that I may have the bug. Because I won't.

My liberty does not stop, where their fear begins.