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Old 02-11-2019, 02:37 PM
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I'm currently participating in a study for cholesterol. The product is made by Gatorade (Cholesteraid) and is not a statin. So far no side effects.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:59 PM
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The physician is totally within his rights. The only requirement is that he give you sufficient time to find another doctor. Usually 30 days.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:55 PM
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I posted earlier about my allergy to atorvastatin. I took it ever since 2007 when I had a stent put in my heart. I was taking 40 mg twice a day and my cholesterol was 97. Then came my reactions out of nowhere in 2012, without the statin my cholesterol is about 210.

What the statin did to me was give me psoriasis so bad that I had to be admitted to the VA hospital in Gainesville. They never solved the problem, I did it myself by reading up on all the medications I take and when it came to atorvastatin, I stopped it and five days later my skin was totally clear. Also some help from Jennifer the PA at Alliant Dermatology.

What I figured out is, I'm hypothyroid and take a pill every morning to speed up my system. The statins were doing the same thing but in overdrive. Psoriasis, rashes, many of these conditions are caused by the body making too much new skin. You should have new skin every 28 days, I was making new skin every 4 days.

I had a very red neck, and I no satisfaction from the VA dermatologist in Gainesville. They did biopsies and chatted and essentially did nothing. I went to Dr. Casper's office, Alliant Dermatology in TV and in one minute without any test, his PA Jennifer (who is back from Arizona), said you're taking too strong a thyroid medication. End of story.

I have a medicare doctor who knows about allergies to statins, he learned from me. He is Dr. Raquet at the Brownwood office. So if you want to change doctors, ask for him. He has me now on a nutrient that he said dropped another patient 40 points. I've been on it for 5 months and I'll get tested next month. It's Cholestoff Plus, $14.98 for 105 pills at Walmart, take two a day.



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Old 02-12-2019, 07:14 AM
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I truly do sympathize with the doctor's side of things, but I'd also expect a bit of forebearance on their part.

The difficulty is that "not forcing me to take medication" isn't a good way to find doctors. This is my 5th internist in 9 years -- three of them left TV and one I left because of excessive wait times and error-prone office staff. I'd hope to find something who's willing to work with me as I try to take back some control over my health care after a couple of stressful years on the medical merry go round. I'm tired of the paperwork and repeat testing and having to start over and explain everything again with someone new.

I absolutely dread going to the doctor these days and get quite anxious (blood pressure up!).

United Healthcare even contacted my danged pharmacy and had them call me to say I needed to take statins. Like, really?
Let me first say that I'm on board with your thought processes. I wish I dealt with more patients that had your mindset of wanting to take back some control over your healthcare. Having said that, as a pharmacist I can directly speak to the statement in your post that I highlighted.

United Healthcare is not unique in "requiring" pharmacies to contact patients about various things including using statins if you are diabetic regardless of your cholesterol levels. It has become a standard of practice in the industry overall to put diabetics on statins to help in the prevention of cardiovascular disease which often occurs as part of the disease process. To put it simply, insurance companies dictate certain standards of care, such as this one, with which pharmacies must comply or it risks not being paid the full amount for medication dispensed. I'm sure doctors are under the same kind of pressure to comply with certain standards dictated by insurance companies in order to get paid for their services. IMHO, the result of insurance companies dictating reimbursement based on the standards they set has taken away much of the individuality of treating patients because we professionals are forced to follow their protocols. I believe this has led to a great disservice to patient care and a lot of frustration in healthcare professionals across the board. As I said, this is the simple version. It's really much more complicated and as often happens with regulations, there are both good aspects and bad.

Again, kudos to you for listening to your body and speaking up when you feel something isn't right for you. We are not all made the same so medications will not necessarily react the same in every body. Hope you find a new doctor who meets your needs.

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Old 02-12-2019, 08:05 AM
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This thread has been enlightening to me in many ways.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:34 AM
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We should always remember we are responsible for our health/body, etc. Not the Insurance Companies or the Doctor. There are billions dollar's available to be "cherry picked" by both of these groups and we are the trees where the cherries are. I have dealt with these groups thru 3 very serious cancers, one that was fatale and have experienced the good and the bad. Always remembering we are responsible for the care and treatment and not the Dr and Insurance Co. I think this thread is terrific as it causes many to think about the medical portion of their life and consider all sides. This is a good example as to why TOV's is so valuable to our community.
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