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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 970444)

Well let's see how about adverse drug reactions and medical errors

And how about bedsores and infections.

I apologize but you aren't even close to a subject which is remotely familiar to you. Your logic is not correct and I'm fairly certain you aren't familiar with all the medical terminology. I don't participate for the sake of argument. Most of the time I participate either to educate myself or to help or educate others. When you've worked in healthcare for 45 years...give me a shout. But don't insult my knowledge or intelligence.

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 970510)

This is directed to Villages.

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 969564)

:ohdear:

Exactly. I'm wary of the specious statistics that have been quoted on this topic.

Notice that no one has any comprehensive statistics of their own. It's easy to doubt but what do you have to offer?

???...I gave you 97 pages of death statistics maintained by the CDC for 2010. If that doesn't qualify I wouldn't know what does. As I noted earlier I'm not here to argue. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving with Mr Null.
Signing off this thread.

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 968608)

I would have explained it sooner if I had been given the chance. The statistics in his book don't necessarily disagree with CDC statistics, as far as I can tell.

As far as profit: Those who head the CDC probably make far more money than Gary Null. Should we discredit CDC doctors for making a lot of money ? "Center for Disease Control" is an impressive title too. So what?

Are you against "catchy" titles? If you write a really good book and nobody reads it because it has a dull title, what good it that? It wouldn't be very smart of the authors if they go through a lot of trouble and no one buys the book.

Is a book written for profit a bad thing necessarily? And in this case they have to split the money between 4 doctors. How about our personal physicians. Don't they make a profit off of every office visit? Is that bad?
Can we believe them when they say we need to come back for a follow-up exam?

When were you denied the chance to explain anything? Did one of our members come to your house and steal your keyboard?

Who is Betty Martini?

The Complete Encyclopedia of Natural Healing by Gary Null Ph.D

Out of curiosity I checked out this book from the Belvedere Library to see just how bad it is.

In the very beginning he has a section on "How to Use Alternative Therapies Safely"

Here are a few of his statements/suggestions:

1) Get diagnosed by a conventional physician to be sure you're not missing anything.

2) Always weigh the risks and benefits of any approach.

3) Just because it's 'natural' doesn't mean it's safe.

4) If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

Some of his advice on treating cancer:

"Antioxidant supplements prevent cells from becoming cancerous and can increase a patients tolerance for chemotherapy and radiation;...."

This indicates that he is not against conventional treatments for cancer.

About AIDS:
"Researchers now seem hopeful that new drug combinations can keep the disease under control, and this approach does seem to be helping some patients. At this point, though, no one knows the long-term effects of these drugs. What we do know is that long-term survivors do not rely totally on pharmaceuticals."

Once again, he's not against conventional treatments, he's recommending a balanced approach of medication and nutrition.

This doesn't mean I agree with everything he recommends, but it's not dangerous as long as people remember to take his advice and consult with their PCP first.