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CFrance 02-16-2021 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1901827)
The FDA is a pathetically bureaucratic and slow agency. They took an extra 10 days to approve Pfizer's vaccine out of pure bureaucracy at a time when we desperately needed to start vaccinations.

They have not approved AstraZenaca's vaccine even though the U.K. and all of continental Europe have. AZ made an error in their testing procedure that returned BETTER than expected results. AZ submitted all the data but the FDA wants them to rerun the whole testing process which takes months. The FDA is not our friend.

Is that a No, you're not getting the vaccine?

JimJohnson 02-17-2021 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1901875)
Where do you get these numbers???

The survival rate for the 65-74 group is about 94% and for the 75-84 group it drops to 85%. The survival rate for the flu is something like 99.998%.

Avoid the shot for whatever reason you have but stop spreading bad information that could get someone else killed.

Thank you. I find it mind boggling when people say they are not getting the vaccine.

Bay Kid 02-17-2021 08:35 AM

The man said we will all be vaccinated this year.

DonnaNi4os 02-17-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wachteldepew (Post 1901834)
We will not be getting the vaccine. How could they come up with a “cure” for a virus they know very little about in less than a year? The flu and cancer have been around forever and they can’t cure them, but miraculously they have an answer to covid. Not buying it.

No one ever touted the vaccine as a “cure” but rather a way to slow the spread. You can still get the virus but you are much more likely NOT going to end up with the severe form that could end with you on a respirator or worse. But the choice is yours. No one is mandating that you get it. As for spreading the virus after being fully vaccinated, the jury is still out. As of now the possibility remains which is why we will be wearing masks for a long time. As Dr Fauci has said, being vaccinated is NOT a get out of jail free. Good luck to you.

Sophie11 02-17-2021 01:35 PM

Why? Many do not take vaccines.

bobdeb 02-17-2021 02:45 PM

I have posted in this regard earlier.

My surgeon does not want me to receive the vaccine within a week of surgery due to possible side effects. This is not elective surgery.

I've got a short period of time before I reach that date, which invites this question.

If I miraculously receive a code from GMR et al., how long can you delay responding and setting up a date?

And I hate that this may influence this already excruciating process for others...

I'm open to suggestions. Waiting to hear that I should boot GMR and get the BoGo at Publix following surgery. Anything else? And thanks in advance.

stevekennedy3 02-18-2021 05:00 PM

We are not getting the mNRA vaccines.
 
I did a lot of research on the safety of these vaccines, mostly from European sources (as I have lived in Europe twice in my life and worked with the Bundesgesundheitsamt, the FDA of Germany. I still have lots of contacts there). I personally do not believe they are safe. Here is the most qualified doctor in the USA on vaccines:

Dr Sherri Tenpenny - You Will Start Seeing The Effects Of The Covid19 Vaccines In 3-6 Months

Moreover, there is a quick and easy way to avoid the virus that the pharmaceutical industry does not want you to know about. This knowledge has been around 2,000 years. My wife and I have been taking one TBS/day nano particle silver colloid at a concentration of 10 ppm for 7 years and have never even had a cold, let alone the flu or whatever. Do NOT believe what you read in a Google search about silver colloid unless you are very discerning as the pharmaceutical industry has written and posted many bad articles to scare you away from it and to their drugs. (Study your history. Rockefeller started what became our pharmaceutical industry and had the FDA call all natural products labelled "Quackery," so he could make money from manmade drugs). PROOF that silver colloid kills the Covid 19 virus was provided in a report last September 2020 by our own National Institutes of Health in a very thorough test of various particle sizes and various concentrations and found that silver colloid kills the virus down to 1 part per million! Here is the link to that report:

Potent antiviral effect of silver nanoparticles on SARS-CoV-2

So, since our own government did the testing, why do they not want us to know? I have my own theories about this which have been formed after a lot of study about this virus. The unleashing of this virus, in my opinion, was no accident. The CCP did this intentionally. I suggest you do your own research and form your own opinions as there are many conclusions and motives you can form from a thorough research.

Lastly, we are giving serious thought to taking the J & J vaccine as I am afraid this administration will force us to all have vaccination cards to prove we got the vaccines in order to get on an airplane, and Heaven only knows what else. Because it is not made using the mNRA technology, it seems safe, at least at this point. I have more research to do, and am certain more information will be forthcoming before it is approved by the FDA.

coffeebean 02-18-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stevekennedy3 (Post 1904399)
I did a lot of research on the safety of these vaccines, mostly from European sources (as I have lived in Europe twice in my life and worked with the Bundesgesundheitsamt, the FDA of Germany. I still have lots of contacts there). I personally do not believe they are safe. Here is the most qualified doctor in the USA on vaccines:

Dr Sherri Tenpenny - You Will Start Seeing The Effects Of The Covid19 Vaccines In 3-6 Months

Moreover, there is a quick and easy way to avoid the virus that the pharmaceutical industry does not want you to know about. This knowledge has been around 2,000 years. My wife and I have been taking one TBS/day nano particle silver colloid at a concentration of 10 ppm for 7 years and have never even had a cold, let alone the flu or whatever. Do NOT believe what you read in a Google search about silver colloid unless you are very discerning as the pharmaceutical industry has written and posted many bad articles to scare you away from it and to their drugs. (Study your history. Rockefeller started what became our pharmaceutical industry and had the FDA call all natural products labelled "Quackery," so he could make money from manmade drugs). PROOF that silver colloid kills the Covid 19 virus was provided in a report last September 2020 by our own National Institutes of Health in a very thorough test of various particle sizes and various concentrations and found that silver colloid kills the virus down to 1 part per million! Here is the link to that report:

Potent antiviral effect of silver nanoparticles on SARS-CoV-2

So, since our own government did the testing, why do they not want us to know? I have my own theories about this which have been formed after a lot of study about this virus. The unleashing of this virus, in my opinion, was no accident. The CCP did this intentionally. I suggest you do your own research and form your own opinions as there are many conclusions and motives you can form from a thorough research.

Lastly, we are giving serious thought to taking the J & J vaccine as I am afraid this administration will force us to all have vaccination cards to prove we got the vaccines in order to get on an airplane, and Heaven only knows what else. Because it is not made using the mNRA technology, it seems safe, at least at this point. I have more research to do, and am certain more information will be forthcoming before it is approved by the FDA.

I began listening to Dr. Sheri Tenpenny. As soon as she called vaccines "poisons"......she lost me. I turned off the video and will not listen to anything she has to say. Sorry.

Art cov 02-18-2021 09:34 PM

I was recently out for dinner, a lady couldn’t help herself as she dominated the area with her loud voice talking about the vaccine. Please people enough already! If you get the shot or not, that’s your business! Let others do the opposite that you do. Be tolerate of others, especially in public places. Can’t even enjoy a dinner. I have heard some say we need to tolerate every kind of thing and yet those somehow are the most intolerable people around. Why are some so mean, hateful and nasty when someone disagrees with them? What has happened to being sweet, kind, grateful? Friendliest community? Many are but too many are grouches. I honestly feel so sorry for those that seem so miserable. Read the post. Anymore I just overlook half of them.

JP 02-19-2021 10:13 AM

I'm not so wild about having a foreign mRNA(made from rabbit blood) injected into my body to produce a foreign protein that will cause my body to produce an antigen.

coffeebean 02-19-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 1904737)
I'm not so wild about having a foreign mRNA(made from rabbit blood) injected into my body to produce a foreign protein that will cause my body to produce an antigen.

Made from rabbit blood? Really? I don't think that is what this abstract says.....

In vitro synthesis of DNA complementary to purified rabbit globin mRNA (RNA-dependent DNA polymerase-reticulocyte-hemoglobin-density gradient centrifugation-oligo(dT) primer) - PubMed

JP 02-20-2021 09:51 AM

Globin is derived from hemoglobin which is located in red blood cells

Byte1 02-20-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 1905259)
Globin is derived from hemoglobin which is located in red blood cells

Hope you can LIVE with your decision. You could seek other venues for your information, other than the comic section of the paper. Just saying.

I did see a video and hear a statement saying the J&J vaccine was made from monkey poop. :1rotfl: But nothing related to rabbit blood. I would be interested in hearing more on the subject IF you could provide a reference link. Thank you.

Sabella 02-25-2021 05:06 AM

Vaccine safety
 
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Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 1901510)
Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

If the vaccines are so safe then why are the pharmaceutical companies exempt from lawsuits for the rare cases that it will do serious harm or kill you?

coffeebean 02-25-2021 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 1907534)
If the vaccines are so safe then why are the pharmaceutical companies exempt from lawsuits for the rare cases that it will do serious harm or kill you?

Life is not 100% safe. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


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