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camaguey48 02-14-2021 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 1901510)
Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

I am not. I don't trust this government.

jimbo2012 02-14-2021 09:07 AM

175 million have had at least one shot world wide
Since vaccine distribution began in the U.S. on Dec. 14, more than 48 million doses have been administered, reaching 10.8% of the total U.S. population, according to federal data collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The U.S. is currently administering over 1.6 million shots a day.

How many died from shot with conclusive evidence?

Byte1 02-14-2021 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1901965)
I am not. I don't trust this government.

Other than paying for it, what do you think that gov. has to do with the vaccine?

Manatee 02-14-2021 09:09 AM

Science
 
Misinformation is a waste of time at best. At worst it may kill ya.

Serious reactions have been Extremely Low - please don’t post inaccurate info here. The safety profile is pretty darn good - Moderna is well under one percent for serious adverse Reactions, and most of those were in people with previous vaccine issues.

It’s your choice.
Base it on scientific facts.

Long Haul Covid -
Let’s not ignore that.

10 percent of people who get Covid get long haul - that is
Daily headaches, lung damage, shortness breath, brain fog, nausea....... the docs can’t cure it and aren’t sure if it will ever go away.

I know 2 formerly healthy people who have long haul Covid. Both are younger. Long haul will be one of our biggest chronic health problem for years to come.

jimbo2012 02-14-2021 09:15 AM

Long haul

You want to quote your source?

I found those are side effects of those that had the virus not the vaccine


Fake news IMO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manatee (Post 1901969)
Misinformation is a waste of time at best. At worst it may kill ya.

Serious reactions have been Extremely Low - please don’t post inaccurate info here. The safety profile is pretty darn good - Moderna is well under one percent for serious adverse Reactions, and most of those were in people with previous vaccine issues.

It’s your choice.
Base it on scientific facts.

Long Haul Covid -
Let’s not ignore that.

10 percent of people who get Covid get long haul - that is
Daily headaches, lung damage, shortness breath, brain fog, nausea....... the docs can’t cure it and aren’t sure if it will ever go away.

I know 2 formerly healthy people who have long haul Covid. Both are younger. Long haul will be one of our biggest chronic health problem for years to come.


NJSonja 02-14-2021 10:28 AM

i'm not getting it
 
I have done extensive reading and I have 2 nerve issues as it is...trigeminal neuralgia and burning mouth syndrome plus an autoimmune issue. Even if my doctor says it's perfectly safe, I am the one having to live with the consequences as per my burning mouth syndrome which a dentist managed to do. I am 64. I know a woman who got a flu shot 6 years ago and still has Bell's Palsy from it. I know another woman who got the shingles vaccine and nearly died. For now, it's a no from me. Sonja

Barborv 02-14-2021 10:35 AM

A good handful of my younge aquiances(25-40) are not getting it as of now, even though they can because we are in a school. They either don't trust it or worry that it can cause infertility. Some say it's too new and the government really doesn't know all the answers, which is true. They have no idea if and how long this round of vaccine will last. Will we need it every year, etc? I personally was on the fence at first but when most of my colleagues were signing up I quickly changed my mind. I realized there can be long term health concerns after, if you do get Covid and the real scare is you can die from it .

cherylncliff 02-14-2021 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karadad (Post 1901725)
These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!


I have over 30 years in pharmaceutical research, development and manufacture as well as regulatory submissions and approvals and your statement is simply not true. For Pfizer and Moderna (basically the same), over 60,000 participants were part of the phase 2/3 study after successfully completing the phase 1 protocols. That is much larger than normal for phase 2/3. Since then, millions of people around the world have received the vaccine with very low rate of adverse events. The FDA and several other regulatory agencies have reviewed the safety data and efficacy data and have approved these drugs for use.

You may have other reasons for not getting vaccinated but to spread false and misleading information borders on criminal.

BlueHeronFan 02-14-2021 10:41 AM

I will not get the Physer or Moterna vaccine because calling these "vaccines" when they are actually proteins is concerning. The storage restrictions are dangerous as far as I'm concerned. I have listened to Dr info much better than that idiot Faucci. I might get the Johnson & Johnson vaccine when available as it is an actual vaccine and storage is like the flu vaccine. As of now, NO.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 02-14-2021 10:45 AM

Last night on network news they quoted CDC as saying that there were 66 serious allergic reactions to the shots of course I don’t listen to the real news that comes from the guy reporting from the cellar of his mother’s house so I could be wrong

jgmroc67 02-14-2021 10:54 AM

This is a personal choice, but I believe that people with a history or family history of inflammatory and Autoimmune diseases (which essentially are an overreaction of your immune system ....Parkinson’s, multiple sclerosis, ALS) should seriously consider waiting. The m- RNA sets up the immune response in the body but it is synthetic and it is unknown how long it will take to degrade or dissipate .....possibly setting up an on-going cycle of antibody- immune system response... and thereby triggering a tendency you already carry. I personally have a strong line of ALS in my family history and will wait.

Manatee 02-14-2021 11:02 AM

Science
 
Thank you.

Science.Not Facebook “facts”

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherylncliff (Post 1902041)
I have over 30 years in pharmaceutical research, development and manufacture as well as regulatory submissions and approvals and your statement is simply not true. For Pfizer and Moderna (basically the same), over 60,000 participants were part of the phase 2/3 study after successfully completing the phase 1 protocols. That is much larger than normal for phase 2/3. Since then, millions of people around the world have received the vaccine with very low rate of adverse events. The FDA and several other regulatory agencies have reviewed the safety data and efficacy data and have approved these drugs for use.

You may have other reasons for not getting vaccinated but to spread false and misleading information borders on criminal.


Manatee 02-14-2021 11:08 AM

If you haven’t learned about long haul Covid, you may want to look into it.

Very simple.

Google long haul Covid. The first 2 pages come up with very reputable websites -

Johns Hopkins, NIH, and many scientific, research based sources.
It’s real. You can ignore it. At your peril.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 1901972)
Long haul

You want to quote your source?

I found those are side effects of those that had the virus not the vaccine


Fake news IMO


Bucco 02-14-2021 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manatee (Post 1902058)
Thank you.

Science.Not Facebook “facts”

Yes.

It is simply incredible the people who will post what they know is not a reliable source, but make snide comments about those who are speaking truth, because of P reason. These are the brainwashed, and telling lies while ignorantly ignoring truth and facts is what makes our once great country a laughing stock.

What motivates people to post on here the newest “theories” supported by nobody, and demean those who are trying their best to get out the truth ?

oneclickplus 02-14-2021 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 1901510)
Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

Simple enough: I choose not to. It's personal choice to protect myself and my loved ones from potential harm. Obviously, I judge the potential harm from the shot (not vaccine) to be much worse than any COVID virus. I have protection. It's called an immune system. I got it from God.

Note that this is not a decision based on research to decide if the shot (not vaccine) is safe or not; effective or not. It has nothing to do with the safety or effectiveness of the shot (not vaccine).

Why do some people choose not to go sky diving? It's been proven quite safe. Yet, many will refuse to do it. Understand?

Also, if there is some argument about me being responsible for those around me and that's why I should get the shot (not vaccine) ... my RIGHT to not get the shot (not vaccine) is spelled out in the same paragraph in the constitution where a woman has a right to abortion. If you're not familiar with it, go look it up. And while some will say that my choice puts my fellow man at risk, I would point out that a woman's choice is absolutely FATAL to another human being.

Although I have given you an answer, the beauty of freedom in the USA is that I don't need a reason. PERIOD.

You asked. I answered. Enough said.


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