I'm assuming you have already tried a very good chiropractor. A little bit of traction by a chiropractor helped me a few times. An inversion table (or other devices) can be purchased for home use to help relieve a compressed spine. Also a customized back brace could work.

I saw a comment from someone with arthritis swear by using Collagen Peptides. I tried them and found they helped immensely shortly after starting them. There are different types and some are for bones - I find the powders better than the capsules. He also recommended bone broth which I haven't yet tried.

Acupuncture is a mistake when I had frozen shoulder - adhesive capsilitis after a nasty fall on ice the only real relief was acupuncture. Only go to an Asian acupuncturist as they know where to place the needles it was wonderful. Hopefully your insurance will cover it!

Please let me know about doc’s referral. In nerve pain for 30 years
Thanks

Look for someone that is certified in functional medician. I am working with one for several issues and it has been a God sent. Good luck

Because I have been trying them for 8 years and I’m worse than ever.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.

Good luck. Hope you find the relief you're looking for and pass it on.
:)

I have been getting a great deal of relief for the the past 5 years by using an inversion table. Initially, It takes a little getting use to but it works for me. The relieve is nearly immediate and last for hours. I generally invert to 60 degrees.

I heard of PEMF from a seminar put on by a doctor from TVHealth a couple of years ago. I was a bit skeptical but a trial period (w/out purchasing a unit) was given so I thought I'd give it a go. THEN via one of my FB support sites I heard of this as well AND a unit (different company and not a MLM business) that could be purchased through the company for far less than the unit I'd first been introduced to. It's also small and you can take it anywhere. I actually invested in two. I have degenerative disc disease, RA, fibromyalgia to name a few pain inducing conditions. I believe my PEMF unit(s) do help. They're quite different than TENS (which I also had purchased some years before) in that you can't really feel anything. Back in the day I tried the YL oils---when you have pain you will try anything. All they are, are nice smelling and for me they didn't work.

Holistic Pain Relief
 

Try experimenting with a combination of Tumeric Root and Circumin Root - Buy at the grocery store- shave small slivers and eat with breakfast. Did wonders for my L4 & L5 disks. Treatment for inflamation has been around for MANY YEARS,

The Curable App and Podcast - must have tools for chronic pain
 

I have tried everything on this list and more from TENS to weekly soft tissue release sessions to pills to $1000 Injections and surgeries. Nothing helped much. Mostly placebo effects… From this list I like Bob and Brad videos the most, but I also found some better options out there like GuerillaZen videos (but not the supplements) and the Curable app for pain. Lots of techniques for desensitization… there’s also a great podcast from the same group ‘Like body like mind’. I’ve been practically pain free for a year now.

Hope you feel better soon!

I would encourage you to try cattle semen. This is available from many sources including local unregulated farms and even can be obtained yourself if you are a risk taker. I'd instead suggest using a recognized dealer Some people have tried other large mammals such as camels and spaniels. Yak is very commonly used in China, or so I have heard. Grizzly bear is a superior product to cattle but is very expensive and you need to be careful as it is so often mislabeled and diluted with Miracle Whip and other contaminants.

While there are no well done placebo controlled double blind studies supporting this product we all know that cowtilidge is important in joints. If calf pain is a issue, clearly this product is well aligned to help your discomfort. There are many you tube videos on how to properly use cattle semen. I'd recommend being sure you align your hips and shoulders exactly north/south when applying the product so that the magnetic field of the earth can properly activate it's healing properties.

While I do wish the OP find some relief somewhere, including non-allopathic approaches, I would point out that anecdotes and online testimonials are as useful as this post. Science advances when theories are tested, properly tested. Pseudo-science is not alternative or forward thinking. It may be complementary. It may provide benefit via some untested mechanism or via the powerful placebo effect. And it is 100% reasonable for patients who have not gotten benefit from well established approaches to try unproven ones. Just don't take their advise as any more based on science than my snarky first couple paragraphs complete with links. You really should watch the you tube video. People selling snake oil really do believe in it. They are not lying in their missionary zeal or purely profit motivated. They are lying to themselves.

wow, i wish i could help you, but from experience, nerve issues & compression are not best treated by the options you may be looking for. you can try physical therapy & hands on treatments by GENTLE chiropractors, but imo, the relief only lasts as long as they're working on you. ive seen ads for individual compression treatments, but i'd be cautious on how these can actually aggravate your disks!! if i were you,..i'd see a regular,conventional surgeon & ask him/her how to 'manage' your pain conservatively. a really cool dr will give you honest info. BEST OF LUCK! let us know how you're getting along? thx

All natural products
 

Have you looked at Isotonix products...no binders or fillers. Check out the site:

www.isotonx.com/sylviapierce

There is lots of info there...let me know if you wish to chat about these. 603 387 4808

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at www.isotonx.com.

Is diabetic neuropathy a factor in your nerve pain or is it all related to your spinal compression issue?

I agree that there are sometimes alternatives to Doctors recommendations. I have several family members that were given very poor advice because the industry is focused drugs and surgery. There is a massive amount of medical research that they never bother to explore. Not all though but they are very hard to find.

[QUOTE=blueash;1978205]I would encourage you to try cattle semen. This is available from many sources including local unregulated farms and even can be obtained yourself if you are a risk taker. I'd instead suggest using a recognized dealer Some people have tried other large mammals such as camels and spaniels. Yak is very commonly used in China, or so I have heard. Grizzly bear is a superior product to cattle but is very expensive and you need to be careful as it is so often mislabeled and diluted with Miracle Whip and other contaminants.

While there are no well done placebo controlled double blind studies supporting this product we all know that cowtilidge is important in joints. If calf pain is a issue, clearly this product is well aligned to help your discomfort. There are many you tube videos on how to properly use cattle semen. I'd recommend being sure you align your hips and shoulders exactly north/south when applying the product so that the magnetic field of the earth can properly activate it's healing properties.

While I do wish the OP find some relief somewhere, including non-allopathic approaches, I would point out that anecdotes and online testimonials are as useful as this post. Science advances when theories are tested, properly tested. Pseudo-science is not alternative or forward thinking. It may be complementary. It may provide benefit via some untested mechanism or via the powerful placebo effect. And it is 100% reasonable for patients who have not gotten benefit from well established approaches to try unproven ones. Just don't take their advise as any more based on science than my snarky first couple paragraphs complete with links. You really should watch the you tube video. People selling snake oil really do believe in it. They are not lying in their missionary zeal or purely profit motivated. They are lying to themselves.[/QU

I very strongly agree! A functional doctor can help you explore both traditional and holistic options.

A functional doctor as compared to a non-functional doctor?

Every doctor I've ever been to has functioned just fine.

Meanwhile: "Functional medicine" refers to the theoretical (and disproven) notion that gut health and adrenals are the "root cause" of just about any ailment. Sort of like when you go to a homeopathic practitioner and they do a blood test that tells you you're allergic to eggs, wheat, dairy, and green beans. What they don't tell you is that your test will show the same allergies as everyone else who takes the test. All it does is measure proteins. You're not really allergic to any of those things.

Quackery has become more sophisticated, as access to internet fraud has expanded.

try it
 

Try back stretching exercising and walking. Ask any good doctor and they will tell you most back and nerve problems can be handled with movement and weight loss . If your not moving and over weight life gets very painful

PubMed

Great resource. If a remedy has been subjected to clinical trials, you can find out here. Not always conclusive but better than internet chatter.

MY ENTIRE POST IS CORRECT BUT IS IN REFERENCE TO THE WRONG WEBSITE. I CONFUSED PUBMED WITH WEBMD. My apologies.

I'm leaving the post itself intact so y'all can see how easy it is to confuse facts, even among people who spend hours doing actual fact-checking. A simple incorrect reference can send people into a tirade. In this case, it was a pretty significant error on my part.

Those are almost all summaries of studies. If you want to see the peer-reviewed double-blind studies IN FULL you have to be a paid subscriber.

ANYONE can upload a study to ***pubmed***. You can upload a hypothesis that peanutbutter can cure acne if smeared on the entire body and left for 24 hours a day, once every three weeks, for three years.

It doesn't make it a valid study, but hey someone will click on it and maybe you'll get famous.


***PUBMED IS NOT THE WEBSITE I WAS THINKING OF WHEN I SAW AND RESPONDED TO THE PREVIOUS POST. WEBMD IS THE UNRELIABLE SITE.***

https://www.healthpromoting.com/site...cie%20Yuen.pdf

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If all else fails, this clinic has had some amazing documented results since 1984.

Your point is well taken. That is why you don't rely on just one report. If it is credible then you will find many studies with extensive trials.

Get a copy of "Treat your own back", and follow that for back pain relief. I think the author is Robin McKenzie.?
Also, get and use an inversion bench.
This has helped me tremendously.
Good Luck.

More quackery. They sell cookbooks while promoting a "water-only" fasting diet that they claim would last anywhere between 5 and 40 days.

40 days of NO food, only water. They are a "health retreat" center where you have to pay for ALL medical expenses even if you have insurance, and you can get PARTLY reimbursed by your insurance company if they allow you to go to any doctor (no network).

You stay at their center for $150/night if you're willing to share a bathroom and living area with strangers, or you can rent the entire suite for $300/night, and stay in the whole suite by yourself. Obviously, insurance doesn't cover -any- of that part.

It's a very expensive scam. And they're very successful because there are a lot of desperate people willing to try the latest quack trends to treat their "dis-ease" (the trendy term for illness in the alt-med world).

You should consider Stretch Zone in Pinellas (also Spanish Springs) They are absolutely amazing. Maybe you need something like that to keep your back "loose". Check it out. They offer one free session in which they tell you and show you what the program is all about. I love them. You have to do nothing .... just show up. They do all the work! At least look into it. It may not be for you but.... maybe it is. I can't believe how many responses are suggesting CBD or Pot even though you specifically said "no" to that.

I personally highly recommend an acupuncture treatment known as “Battlefield Acupuncture”. Here’s a link to a recent article from the American Journal of Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation. Some MDs are now trained in it (my preference). The history behind it and recent applications are worth reviewing to see if the treatment may fit your needs. Auriculotherapy is where a sequence of gold mini-darts or semipermanent needles are placed at up to five specific sites in one or both ears for a period of several days to relieve pain. Sounds a bit gruesome but it’s really not. The skin surface of the ear has mapped pain points that correspond to different parts of the body. Ancient Chinese, and recently the Germans and French, have studied this approach for a very long time. You can be the judge. Best of luck.

Battlefield Acupuncture: An Emerging Method for Easing Pain : American Journal of Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation

Holistic: Massage, Homeopathy
 

First of all, good luck.
Of course a lot depends on the cause, duratin and intensity of your pain.
My own PCP recommended Turmeric 500 mg 2 x day. take with food.
Massage has been a God send also for me.
A third, benign option is homeopathy.
If interested, I suggest you research these modalities at the National Institute of Health. They have done a great job providing good studies.
A good resource for herbs is Comsumerlab.com. its run by a M D who does metanalysus on supplements. Its a paid service but gives clear concise conclusions and tests for content & Impurities, etc. -also gives their top picks of products tested.
I'm sure there are also other modalities. I like an MD who is also is open to and knowledgable about more natural options.
Best of both worlds.

Would you please share your doctor? I'm looking for a functional holistic kind of doctor in the area. Thanks in advance!

So have con men, charlatans and snake oil......

While talking with a chiropractor and asking this same question, he mentioned that his wife uses a holistic doctor in Naples. Evidently they conference/zoom call. Perhaps he might know someone in our area. Contact: Integrative MD, Dr. Lionel King, MD, Naples Vitality, 239-465-0098. There are no words when you live with daily pain. Good luck with finding the right match for you!

Is that seriously what it means????? What a crock!!!!! That's even worse than chiropractors blaming all illness on "spine misalignment" (which they call subluxation to sound intelligent). Just goes to show there are more quacks than ducks in this world. Unfortunately, those that have no good treatment or cure fall easy prey to these snake oil salesmen

When I was studying aromatherapy I also had to study the following subjects:

alternative therapies: alt-med, holistic health, naturopathy, homeopathy, chiropractic, accupuncture/pressure, reiki, adjunct and complementary therapies, functional medicine, the term "allopathy" and its origins.

Also, I had to learn what the FDA and the DEA had to say about various raw ingredients and essential oils, and I had to learn the national safety data on any oil I was studying that week.

What each of them meant, what each of them included, the upsides and downsides of each, who/what they -could- be used for, who/what they could -not- be used for, possible side effects, potential allergy issues, when to seek licensed medical practitioner help (which turned out to be "most of the time", etc.

That's the primary reason why I know so much about medicine, in general, and in particular - quackery and fraud. I was required to learn about it in order to become a certified aromatherapist. I only "practiced" it seriously for a year, but I enjoyed it more as a hobby and gave it up. I still have some of my oils though and use them mostly for perfuming (though I do still add a drop of ceylon cinnamon oil to my sweet potato casserole).

That looks interesting. Thank you!

No diabetic issues. All issue are related to spinal compression and a failed major spine surgery that did me in for good after blowing a disc to pieces.

Add walking to your attempt for recovery.

That posting is not correct.
You cannot send your own study to Pubmed, it MUST be published in a journal. Almost all the abstracted journals are peer reviewed quality. Additionally there is no such thing as a subscription to Pubmed. Every article includes a summary AKA abstract, but many are from journals that are not free. If you wish to read the original complete study you may have to buy it from the journal publisher, not from Pubmed.

You can read the criteria used to have a journal's contents included in the Pubmed database HERE

No you cannot submit your study on peanut butter and have it listed. Your attack on Pubmed is not based on reality and I would suggest you delete that post or edit it as such bad posts only spread misinformation and breed distrust in medical science just like the junk posts about Covid do when posted on this website.

Can't walk much. The compression is worse when vertical. Have spent 8 years going through surgeries, therapies and treatments.

It's not something that can be worked through in this particular case. I will eventually end up in a wheelchair. Just trying to push that day off as far as possible.

My 2 cents.
Homeopathy. You may as well drink water, which is basically all you get after all the dilutions.
I have sciatica, and find the stretching exercises are the best relief I get from it.
I do them daily, and they work for me.
I have had accupuncture, and it did give good pain relief.
Unfortunately, by the time I had driven home, I was back to square one!