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Tony! That's because you're a ding-dong! Hahaha! :1rotfl: OK, I couldn't resist that one! :shocked:

Thanks for the link.

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You said in an earlier post: "I really could care less if you try stevia or not. It is up to you...I'm done."
Done....and yet......here you are again.:blahblahblah:

I would be much more open to your arguments if you didn't vilify the FDA. Many people who use alternative medicine also argue that the traditional medical community are all not to be trusted.

In this instance...it only makes sense to vilify them. Think about it for a second.

Ever since stevia was introduced...the FDA has disallowed it. Not approved it. Yet they had no reason to take this stance whatsoever. The things they said about it are unbelievable. They labeled it an unsafe food additive...and restricted its import. Their reason was that "toxicological information on stevia is inadequate to demonstrate its safety."

This very sentence is in direct opposition to their own FDA guidelines which state...any natural substance used prior to 1958 with no reported adverse effects should be generally recognized as safe. Stevia has never had ANY reported adverse effect on anyone, quite the opposite.

Then, finally in 1994, the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act forced the FDA in 1995 to revise its stance to permit stevia to be used as a dietary supplement, although not as a food additive. This again contradicts themselves...because it simultaneously labels stevia as safe and unsafe, depending on how it is sold.

But then finally...when another big business...Coke...and Pepsi...when they decide they want to start using it...well...the FDA gives it their blessing.

How messed up is that? So, do you understand what I have been saying about the politics of the FDA? I sure hope so...I cannot explain it any better, but I respect you enough to take the time to do so.

Santa...you are being rude...I suggest drinking a couple shots of prune juice and taking a nap. Love ya...:throwtomatoes:

Good Morning, BuckeyeNuts,

I can see that this thread has a fork in it. That happens sometimes.

But what I want to do is bring it back to the pre-diabetes issue. I have written about diabetes in this thread and in another one somewhere long ago. I do not have it, but my real world has many diabetics in it. And I love them all. And I want them to take care of themselves.

Here is what I want to say to you. If you have not had the A1C test, will you please check with your doctor. I cannot explain this test clearly, but Mr. Boomer had it last week. He had the A1C because his family has diabetes in it. Both Type I and Type II.

Diabetes can come on without giving you symptoms you know. Mr. Boomer wanted to know more than what the simple glucose test that everybody gets told him. I think that test is basically a snapshot.

The A1C is also just a blood test. I am not talking about the glucose tolerance test where they used to put you in a room and you were starving and then they would feed you some really sweet stuff and then they would take some blood and on and on it went. I don't even know if they do those anymore.

So anyway, BuckeyeNuts, the A1C is a simple test. Give them a little blood and they can tell what that blood has been doing for a long time. Not just the snapshot take of the glucose reading everybody gets at a physical.

I hope you will check into this test if you have not already done so. (Mr. Boomer's turned out fine.) We have seen so many things, up close and personal, that diabetes can cause. Type I and Type II can beat you up. Type II can be a vicious beast just like Type I. But I know people who are controlling their pre-diabetes and Type II beautifully. And our Type I's are doing OK, too. They have insulin pumps now. But each of those people is under a doctor's care. Not the care of the Internet.

Doing your homework on your medical condition can be a good thing. I posted here a couple of days ago about a friend whose Internet search headed off a potential mess with a knee replacement. But please, BuckeyeNuts, do not rely on just what you read.

Boomer

I apologize for any seeming rudeness. I really must learn to stop feeding the trolls.

Thanks for the post. I did have the a1C test and it was 6.9. I have been testing my levels daily and have stumbled onto something very strange. I think I have something called "Dawn Syndrome". In preparation for my body to awaken, my liver must be pumping out glucose right before or as I wake up because my morning, fasting levels are much more high than 2 hours after I eat. It is frustrating and makes me wonder about the validity of my readings.

My morning readings have been 115 to 125. But at night, 2 hours after dinner...they have been between 84 and 97. It makes no sense to me...shouldn't my levels be lower when I wake up?

This problem would also make the A1C test invalid as well. My morning syndrome would give off a false reading.

Has anyone ever had this problem that could relate to me if I am on the right track? My current and soon to be past doctor is basically no help...I am pretty much my own doctor now. I just use them to write prescriptions and do tests.

I am going to seek out a specialist in 3 weeks...someone who actually knows what they are doing and cares at least a little bit.

I would be happy to accept your most humble apology...but you see...you apologize out of one side of your mouth and call me a troll with the other. You would offer to shake my hand and stab me in the back with the other.

I am not posting controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in this online community with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

People do not need to agree on everything. This is my thread about diabetes Sir. You have not tried to help out one iota. All you do is cause division and I wish you to stop posting to my thread unless you can be civil and offer something positive.

Calling me a troll is offensive. You are a nasty little man...please go away.

My husbands morning readings where always higher so just before he goes to bed and takes his last medications he has a piece of cheese and slice of lowfat ham. Made all the difference with his morning readings, don't know why for sure but it does work.

Yes! I just read that...eat a handful of nuts or cheese before bed and the readings are more correct. I will try this. What I want to know now is...what do I need to do so I don't have to eat cheese and nuts before bed. Can this dawn syndrome be fixed or will it go away?

I also take Synthroid in the morning...I wonder if that is raising the levels. My doctor said no...it wouldn't. I have read on medical sites that synthroid..."affects" blood glucose levels...but none of them say how.

Hey Buckeye. Just thought I would take the time to give you a little info from an Internist's point of view.
The bad news is you got a dignosis of pre-diabetes, the good news is you got a diagnosis of pre-diabetes.
It stinks and is scary to receive this kind of info, but you have a heads up alot of people do not get. You are in the early stages of something that could potentially be bad, and you have the opportunity to grab it by the throat and control it. Pre-diabetes is a relatively "new" categorization of diabetes. As more and more information is gathered over the years the numbers for elevated blood sugar and cholesterol do seem to ratchet downwards, as we find out more about the cumulative damage of the various levels.
So what to do? Certainly lifestyle changes as some have outlined above are the top priority in not only avoiding medicines, but in staving off full diabetes for as long as you can. Keep it simple.
-Exercise at least 5 days a week with a target of 30-60 minutes each session(eventually) as long as your doc feels you are heart healthy enough to pursue it.
-Avoid the "white stuff" as much as possible (refined white flour and sugars, white rice and white pastas) and look for whole wheat and sugar alternatives.
-Watch your calories. Most of us eat more than we need to.
-Lose weight if you need to.

As far as medicines go you may indeed need some. The American Association for Endocrinologists recomends the above noted lifestyle modifications as first line treatment along with aggressive treatment of risk factors like high blood pressure and high cholesterol (which may also eventually respond to exercise and diet changes). Even moderately elevated blood sugar can significantly increase the risks of heart disease when coupled with high blood pressure and high cholesterol, so sometimes medical treatment of these is really in your best interest. Additionally, if the lifestyle changes don't correct the sugars, those with "pre diabetes" and other risk factors DO likely need to be treated with medicines for blood sugar.

Bottom line is you can likely correct this by really changing your life. Can you send it packing forever? Not sure beacause everyone is different, but you can certainly inprove your chances of it and your health in general. Be prepared that some medicines may be recomended, and by all means get a second opinion if you are not comfortable..no doctor worth his salt should mind that. Just don't take this lightly, this is your "red flag" moment, we all don't get those so take advantage of it.
Anyway, a little free advice and it is worth about what you pay for it lol.

I wish you luck and lots o' health.

Take care

hey, thank a lot! I am fighting it head on...one reason I am here asking people about it. I am taking Metformin 500 mg ER once a day. At first is was like a laxative for a few days...well, laxative is putting it mildly...but I think it will help a lot from what I have read. My BP has always been perfect and my cholesterol is in the good range...weird thing is...my triglycerides are high. One time a couple years ago...they were 1200! They are down to under 300 now, still too high.

Anyway, I am grateful for the warning and have been gung ho about it ever since...bordering on excessive. I have a treadmill and a dog, so I do more walking now than ever. I found an awesome SWEETENER...but it sure is hard to give up noodles, bread, potatoes and rice. I found an awesome 100 whole wheat bread, but I guess if I mention the brand name, my post will be deleted for copyright infringement?

Thanks for taking the time to help me bro...