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Lindahun 03-06-2014 07:58 PM

I had the same problem when I was in a motorcycle wreck. They didn't want to go to court if it had to go through my auto insurance. Since you don't have to have insurance on a MC they took me. I did call the hospital that treated me and they told me if I couldn't get help to go back to them.
I feel for you.

blueash 03-07-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 840837)
You can thank the legal profession for this unfortunate situation.
Doctors want to treat injuries and illnesses. They do not want to be involved in needless and time consuming paperwork and court appearances which are required by greedy liability lawyers who are mainly interested in making large amounts of money by inflating damages (since they will take 25 to 33 percent of any settlement amounts)

Yes everyone hates the lawyers until they need help. If not for personal injury lawyers there would be no such thing as collecting for your pain and suffering, for your loss of earnings for your disfigurement. We could just pay the doctor for the direct cost of the medical care and after that you are out of luck. Those "greedy liability lawyers" are going to be on your side when you need them, and they get nothing if they lose which is a great system for keeping the doors of the courthouse open to everyone, not just the rich. Yes the legal system in America is terrible, but the system almost everywhere else is worse.

ilovetv 03-07-2014 11:55 PM

Think about it. How many times are there threads and posts here conveying the problems patients have getting in to see a doctor of any kind, waiting weeks and even months to get in.

Or how many times people post saying they had to wait 15-20 hours in the E.R. to be seen by a doctor, and in the end they give up and go elsewhere only to find the same kind of wait. Or, they finally give up and just go home and take their chances of not getting screwed up worse by ignoring something that could unknowingly be getting worse by the hour.

Does anybody think the practice, hospital or clinic's other patients can afford to wait days/weeks longer because the clinicians have to go to court and wait to be deposed, and wait at a courthouse for hours and days to testify to the injuries or evidence they saw/collected.....or wait at the courthouse while the attorneys are supposedly going to settle, but then again....they don't....and the clinicians are told "come back next month", to start waiting in lawyers' office and courthouses all over again. Meanwhile, their patients are getting fed up and are posting on TOTV about their disgust with being unable to get a doctor or be seen in an E.R.

It is in part due to unscrupulous lawyers, but they're not all like that, and the good ones are needed.

cromlich 03-08-2014 07:28 AM

They refuse me because of the accident. Not insurance. The responsible party even got on a couple of 3 way calls and guaranteed 100% payment and they still refuse. It is so very very sad. I have a dislocated wrist and knee injury and have to get an attorney to be seen. I have a primary care doctor who is at least willing to have the testing done now. Just an awful predictament to be in. A real mess. I feel so sorry for those who don't have the stamina to fight.

cromlich 03-08-2014 07:43 AM

They just won't be bothered. One of the gals in Leesburg who answered the phone was clearly distressed with the situation and wanted to help but the Ortho docs obviously have a pact to stand together on this one. I've gotten 3 different reasons as to why they refuse but I think it comes down to the fact that it is not quick and fast and they might have to do something unusual that takes time. I had even had a thought about suing until now and that would only to be to get the proper treatment. This is crazy. I guess I'm suppose to sit here in pain for the rest of my life because the attornies and docs don't want to be bothered.

cromlich 03-08-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 840176)
It would seem that Florida's PIP would kick in??????????????

Most of the docs I have called state PIP is the problem.

bimmertl 03-08-2014 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cromlich (Post 841629)
Most of the docs I have called state PIP is the problem.

Unless the golf cart you were in was street legal, and has the required insurance policy, it doesn't have PIP. The PIP on a car you own only applies when you are occupying a vehicle required to be licensed for use on Florida highways. So it's questionable if there is any applicable PIP for a person injured while a passenger of a non street legal cart.

cromlich 03-08-2014 08:06 AM

yes and the adjuster even got on a 3 way call guaranteeing payment as his client is 100% responsible and they still refuse. I challenge anyone to call any Ortho doc in The Villages, Ocala or Leesburg and see what their response is to an accident. It's crazy

cromlich 03-08-2014 08:07 AM

Thank you, Judy

cromlich 03-08-2014 08:12 AM

Would you mind pm'ng me and give me the names of the docs in Ocala? Thank you so much.

SusanOfWoodbury 03-08-2014 11:20 PM

Conact the State of Florida Insurance Commisioner with your complaint...Contact the local newpaper, probably the Ocala paper and have someone do a story about your plight.. Also, contact WESh, Channel 2 or 6 for another personal interest story...

cromlich 03-14-2014 06:38 AM

I was so excited to think I had found a wonderful Primary Care doc. I just had a very frustrating day at his office after numerous tests being done and thought maybe I was on the way to getting some help. I thought we were going to be addressing my Blood Pressure that had gone off the charts since my accident and my ongoing excruciating pain in my knee, leg and back but instead I was lectured about how docs are so mistreated now and how they are "cherry picking" their patients. I walked out of there more stressed then ever. I did not have an attoreny at that point but I do now. Folks, this is real. He told me that if a patient has too many issues or takes too much of a doctor's time they will be choosing to eliminate you as a patient. I was astounded at this comment. He wanted to know how I had gotten to the doc I had and I explained I saw a doc other than an Ortho doc so that I could be treated. He said that docs don't want to be bothered with accidents. Excuse me! I did not ask to get hurt in an accident. I have real issues that I only wanted treated. I had no intentions of suing anyone. Not til now. I got more help from an attorney in one phone call then I did with all my office visits to the medical docs. This is sad. I am not an automobile that was damaged but a real live human being. I needed help and they don't want to help. I'm sincerely scared for the future of where this is headed. The docs and attornies need to work this out between themselves. I know all the arguments about how they are taking less and less money and how they "think" they will end up in court. We all are taking hits in this economy and crazy world out here. What if every business picked and chose who they do business with. I know in my world when I was working we took the good with the bad. it's business and we are dealing with humans, not equipment or objects. I felt less of a human being yesterday then I had in all my years of living. I am sure after yesterday that I will be looking for a new Primary Care doc. At least now I am going to get some help so that I can get back to a life. I would never treat anyone the way I felt yesterday. So sorry to rant but all of us need to know what will happen should we be unfortunate enough to be seriously hurt in an accident.

graciegirl 03-14-2014 06:43 AM

Is something broken? Is something open? Have you tried seeing your regular physician first?


I am so sorry you are going through this.


Whoops, we posted at the same time. I see that you now have a PCP.


I am confused. Did he give you medication for your blood pressure, Did he examine your injured areas and give you advice or help?

cromlich 03-14-2014 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SusanOfWoodbury (Post 842133)
Conact the State of Florida Insurance Commisioner with your complaint...Contact the local newpaper, probably the Ocala paper and have someone do a story about your plight.. Also, contact WESh, Channel 2 or 6 for another personal interest story...

thanks for the advice. I am doing all I can to let everyone know what they will be up against should they be unfortunate enough to be seriously hurt in an accident. God bless

cromlich 03-14-2014 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 845127)
Is something broken? Is something open? Have you tried seeing your regular physician first?


I am so sorry you are going through this.


Whoops, we posted at the same time. I see that you now have a PCP.


I am confused. Did he give you medication for your blood pressure, Did he examine your injured areas and give you advice or help?

Yes, Gracie, see my last post. This is a nightmare and we all need to be aware of what we are up against. You are always so kind and uplifting. I'm really scared for the future of all this. HUGS


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