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bcsnave 09-19-2023 08:35 AM

I am not Jabbing anyone on their choice to get vacinated. Do your homework, talk to your Dr. and look up the FDA adverse event reports (FAERS). We are a fairly educated population here, time to employ your academic research skill sets.

Nothin' ta' worry 'bout here..."Just Do It"

golfing eagles 09-19-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2258494)
You seem to exaggerate as much as you accuse others of. It is unfortunate that people can not have a civil conversation without putting down (name calling) the other side.

This is cut and dry. There is only factual enlightenment and ignorance. There IS NO OTHER SIDE. Plus, I have no idea what you are talking about in that post

Eg_cruz 09-19-2023 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2257385)
I am passing on this vaccine, just as I have all the others. It’s a personal decision, I can make on my own.

Agree

Stu from NYC 09-19-2023 01:08 PM

Our family doctor has recommended to us to get the vaccine and we will.

RedChariot 09-19-2023 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2257380)
Ok, that question is legitimate enough to warrant a serious answer.

I've been retired 8 years and have not yet looked into the new RSV vaccine, although I believe it is a traditional viral vaccine, unlike COVID. Also, the apparent discovery/infection of adults with RSV is new to me----it has historically been considered a disease of infants and newborns. Personally, I haven't decided whether or not to get this vaccine---but as I already advised everyone else, I'm going to discuss it with my physician, who will be up to date on it.

No, physicians don't "take classes" on every new vaccine or medication. Usually reading the product insert is adequate. There is a publication call "The Medical Letter" that generally does a short review of new meds and vaccines. Beyond that, most of us subscribe to either PubMed or Up to Date----2 professional medical sites that are extremely valuable (not the lay person versions).

Could you get different advice from 2 doctors? Of course---there is an old joke that put 10 doctors in a room and you'll get 10 different opinions, especially with something new. But most vaccines and new drugs are pretty thoroughly tested before they gain FDA approval---no, they're not always 100%, especially when there is an urgent need and they rush something through, but in general they do a good job.

As this develops I'll probably look at the incidence and prevalence of RSV in the over 65 population, and try as best I can to determine if it's for real or just hype.

Would you be so kind to let us know the incidence and prevalence of RSV in the over 65 population as this goes forward? Maybe we might be spared another vaccine considering how many we are taking. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and years of experience. I always look forward to your postings on medical issues

Altavia 09-19-2023 04:42 PM

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Would you be so kind to let us know the incidence and prevalence of RSV in the over 65 population as this goes forward? Maybe we might be spared another vaccine considering how many we are taking. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and years of experience. I always look forward to your postings on medical issues

Death rate for the 65-+ looks similar to flu. The risk may be similar for any respiratory infection for that age group

Bjeanj 09-19-2023 06:01 PM

I’ve read all the comments here, and I did not see anyone commenting about the ramifications of an unvaccinated grandparent unknowingly exposing a grandbaby to RSV. According to the CDC, RSV can cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. Children at greatest risk for severe illness from RSV include the following: Premature infants. Infants up to 12 months, especially those 6 months and younger. Children younger than 2 years with chronic lung disease or congenital (present from birth) heart disease.

I would hate to live knowing I put a baby in the hospital by infecting it with RSV.

Altavia 09-19-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2258688)
I’ve read all the comments here, and I did not see anyone commenting about the ramifications of an unvaccinated grandparent unknowingly exposing a grandbaby to RSV. According to the CDC, RSV can cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. Children at greatest risk for severe illness from RSV include the following: Premature infants. Infants up to 12 months, especially those 6 months and younger. Children younger than 2 years with chronic lung disease or congenital (present from birth) heart disease.

I would hate to live knowing I put a baby in the hospital by infecting it with RSV.

Protecting others is an important aspect of vaccination.

Unfortunately some people don't care about anyone other themselves. And expect "other people" to be "guinea pigs" and test safety of the drug for them.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-19-2023 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2258688)
I’ve read all the comments here, and I did not see anyone commenting about the ramifications of an unvaccinated grandparent unknowingly exposing a grandbaby to RSV. According to the CDC, RSV can cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. Children at greatest risk for severe illness from RSV include the following: Premature infants. Infants up to 12 months, especially those 6 months and younger. Children younger than 2 years with chronic lung disease or congenital (present from birth) heart disease.

I would hate to live knowing I put a baby in the hospital by infecting it with RSV.

Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

Djean1981 09-19-2023 08:30 PM

Exactly 💯

RedChariot 09-20-2023 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2258700)
Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

This is a joke-right?

golfing eagles 09-20-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2258667)
Would you be so kind to let us know the incidence and prevalence of RSV in the over 65 population as this goes forward? Maybe we might be spared another vaccine considering how many we are taking. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and years of experience. I always look forward to your postings on medical issues

This will be a subject that will take some time to evolve and some studies to be performed. In years gone by, RSV was considered an infant disease. I doubt it is "new" in adults, just always lumped in with "URIs" and "the flu" and even a "cold". In clinical medicine, we never really considered it a possible diagnosis in an adult, much less test for it (or if there even was a test). Therefore, we don't have a baseline of adults with RSV to use as a comparison.

My gestalt, for what it is worth, is that if we looked at the average number of total diagnoses of URI, flu, and colds say from 5 years ago, and compare it with the average number of URIs, flu, colds AND RSV say over the next few years the number will be about the same. We'll have to keep an eye out, but remember, in addition to the legitimate studies that will be performed, there are always a bunch of crap studies that find their way onto the internet just to prove one agenda or another.

Stu from NYC 09-20-2023 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2258700)
Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

I really hope this is a joke otherwise sad comment.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-20-2023 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RedChariot (Post 2258789)
This is a joke-right?

It's me, parroting the mentality of some members of the community. It is sadly not a joke. Some people actually feel this way.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-20-2023 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2258688)
I’ve read all the comments here, and I did not see anyone commenting about the ramifications of an unvaccinated grandparent unknowingly exposing a grandbaby to RSV. According to the CDC, RSV can cause more severe infections such as bronchiolitis, an inflammation of the small airways in the lung, and pneumonia, an infection of the lungs. Children at greatest risk for severe illness from RSV include the following: Premature infants. Infants up to 12 months, especially those 6 months and younger. Children younger than 2 years with chronic lung disease or congenital (present from birth) heart disease.

I would hate to live knowing I put a baby in the hospital by infecting it with RSV.

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2258695)
Protecting others is an important aspect of vaccination.

Unfortunately some people don't care about anyone other themselves. And expect "other people" to be "guinea pigs" and test safety of the drug for them.

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2258700)
Oh who cares, really? Grandparents have a right to their freedom. Freedom is more important than their grandchildrens' lives (unless they are still in the womb, then they're more important).

My comment was an extension of Altavia's comment, which was a response to Bjeanj's comment, for those of you who want to keep up.


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