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Taltarzac725 06-22-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1415033)
Was reading elsewhere and found this line, which seems to apply to the thread

One of the greatest joys of adult life is quietly disapproving of someone else’s choices while simultaneously congratulating oneself on exhibiting restraint.

Of course the fact that I'm commenting would suggest I too am missing that great joy. Hmm, a paradox.

That's very amusing. Would you call that irony???

dillywho 06-22-2017 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1415004)
And now 2 cents from the other side of the counter:

I don't need or want patients in the waiting room getting involved with other patients at the window. We had a post and sign for those waiting at the counter to stay back. There are very strict HIPPA privacy laws with huge penalties if a provider does not take certain minimum steps to ensure privacy. While "I'm late" is not covered by HIPPA, you never know what else could be said and construed as a violation.

My receptionists were professionals, very well trained and knew how to handle almost every situation, up to and including an armed intruder, a bomb threat, and a hostage situation. They did not need any help from the "peanut gallery". A rude patient???? Happened 5x a day, and our providers ran within 10 minutes of the scheduled appointment 95% of the time. Last thing we needed was amateur involvement inflaming the situation or violating HIPPA.

I was at the other window, right next to her waiting to get my husband's ID and insurance card returned so was in no way "crowding" her. (They scan them each time we go.)

I guess one of the things that prompted me to speak up is that I am so sick and tired of the me, me, me first mentality that seems to abound these days. Her holier-than-thou attitude towards everyone was what really got me going. She offered no explanation or, at the very least, an apology for being late, but simply began berating the staff for not just running her right in. It was as if they should be GRATEFUL that she bothered to show up at all.

Most times, I too, would not say anything.

dillywho 06-22-2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1414971)
I was taught to hold my tongue if I don't know all the circumstances. No one knows what the late lady might have been going through in her life.

And nobody, including her, knows what the other patients who were on time were going through, either.

dillywho 06-22-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1414943)
Let me be clear my comments are not directly directed at the OP but the actions taken by the OP.

Once again "Rules of Civility and Decent Behavior In Company and Conversation" explain the error. The OP was not a party to this business discussion.

We are all different and in this specific situation reticence by the OP was required because all the OP did was add fuel to this fire.

One poster describes the OP as "always being...." I would like to believe that I am "always.... but that is an absolute and thus not humanly possible "generally"perhaps but not "always".

This poster also identified the OP as a retired RN and that explains the OP response the Op was in essence defending the medical community and hence defending his/herself. The type of facility was of no consequence because the issue was a missed appointment

In some medical offices a missed appointment means being charged the cost of the appointment.

Gracie misspoke on my being a retired nurse. I am not. I did grow up in a medical family, but chose another path for myself.

dillywho 06-22-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1414943)
Let me be clear my comments are not directly directed at the OP but the actions taken by the OP.

Once again "Rules of Civility and Decent Behavior In Company and Conversation" explain the error. The OP was not a party to this business discussion.

We are all different and in this specific situation reticence by the OP was required because all the OP did was add fuel to this fire.

One poster describes the OP as "always being...." I would like to believe that I am "always.... but that is an absolute and thus not humanly possible "generally"perhaps but not "always".

This poster also identified the OP as a retired RN and that explains the OP response the Op was in essence defending the medical community and hence defending his/herself. The type of facility was of no consequence because the issue was a missed appointment

In some medical offices a missed appointment means being charged the cost of the appointment.

Yes, it could have added fuel to the fire. From her simmering down and getting out of her rant at the staff, it apparently was effective in snuffing out the fire. My take is that she is simply someone who is accustomed to pushing others around and getting her way. Yes, the receptionist was very adamant about her rescheduling and very professional about it, but she was having none of it and getting worse until I did speak up.

golfing eagles 06-22-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1415086)
I was at the other window, right next to her waiting to get my husband's ID and insurance card returned so was in no way "crowding" her. (They scan them each time we go.)

I guess one of the things that prompted me to speak up is that I am so sick and tired of the me, me, me first mentality that seems to abound these days. Her holier-than-thou attitude towards everyone was what really got me going. She offered no explanation or, at the very least, an apology for being late, but simply began berating the staff for not just running her right in. It was as if they should be GRATEFUL that she bothered to show up at all.

Most times, I too, would not say anything.

There is no question that I agree with everything you were THINKING, especially the me, me, me attitude of many. My point was that actually SAYING it could have a neutral outcome at best, and a significant confrontation at worst. There was a (theoretically) professional and experienced professional there handling it, it just doesn't make sense to get involved. After all, if there is a rabid raccoon in your garage, do you try to capture it when an animal control officer is standing right next to you?

NYGUY 06-22-2017 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1414847)
Was the person in question someone you know ? Or just from NYC ? Or both ?

LOL, no Jim....and like you, I am from Western New York.

Wiotte 06-22-2017 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dillywho (Post 1415088)
And nobody, including her, knows what the other patients who were on time were going through, either.


Justifying a MYOB situation . Those directly involved handled the situation nicely without interference.


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Bonny 06-22-2017 12:28 PM

If I would have been the receptionist, I would have resented any interference from someone in the waiting room. If someone felt the need to get involved, it would make me feel like they think I needed their help because I wasn't doing my job.
I wouldn't have been happy.

Taltarzac725 06-22-2017 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1415105)
There is no question that I agree with everything you were THINKING, especially the me, me, me attitude of many. My point was that actually SAYING it could have a neutral outcome at best, and a significant confrontation at worst. There was a (theoretically) professional and experienced professional there handling it, it just doesn't make sense to get involved. After all, if there is a rabid raccoon in your garage, do you try to capture it when an animal control officer is standing right next to you?

Rabid raccoon might be pushing it. Maybe a half-boiled lobster that got out of its pot. :)

There are people you should avoid confrontation with now and they could look like anyone in this stressful time. I have a milquetoast personality most of the time, for instance. Caspar Milquetoast - Wikipedia But even milquetoasts have a limit.

golfing eagles 06-22-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1415166)
Rabid raccoon might be pushing it. Maybe a half-boiled lobster that got out of its pot. :)

There are people you should avoid confrontation with now and they could look like anyone in this stressful time. I have a milquetoast personality most of the time, for instance. Caspar Milquetoast - Wikipedia But even milquetoasts have a limit.

were the rubber bands still on the lobster's claws????
and was the lobster from Canada???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

maryanna630 06-22-2017 09:17 PM

My question to the OP...did anyone ask for your help? If not, it might be more appropriate to MYOB and let the experienced receptionist do her job without interference.

Wiotte 06-22-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1415166)
Rabid raccoon might be pushing it. Maybe a half-boiled lobster that got out of its pot. :)

There are people you should avoid confrontation with now and they could look like anyone in this stressful time. I have a milquetoast personality most of the time, for instance. Caspar Milquetoast - Wikipedia But even milquetoasts have a limit.



Googling any word can bring surprising results. I googled my name and found my sister, googled my sister and found my mother, googled my mother and found she was dead. I've stopped googling my name.


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CFrance 06-23-2017 01:47 AM

It puts the receptionist in an awkward position too--the middle. And if the person does end up in a fight, the receptionist could be the one catching the fallout.

My plan would have been wait to see what the receptionist does. If she allows the latecomer to push off everyone else's appointment, then I would complain. But to the receptionist, not the patient.

rubicon 06-23-2017 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1414947)
Perhaps not" always". My affection and admiration for this woman made me emotionally defensive.

I notice that my age has caused me to be more outspoken than I used to be.

I am surprised Dilly spoke out, but she did and to me and how I was raised,she was right. Sometimes being silent isn't the right thing to do.

I have rarely shared my views on politics except with my family and close friends, nor even had passionate views on world affairs until this last decade of my life. It could be part of our human development that as we age we speak up on things that we had not previously.

I have defended you many times on the political forum Rubicon, because I have read your posts for many years. This one is true to you and doesn't surprise me. We are who we are and don't have a whole lot of time left to be here and to speak up.

GG:

Words are powerful and words have different meanings from a sender to a receiver. The word "typical" to me carries more emotion than perhaps others owing to a past experience?

Words such as all, always, etc are absolutes and the only absolute is death...However this is one absolute we ALL try and avoid:D it is not in the human experience for any of us to "always be". etc If it were so perhaps more of us would play more consistent golf:D

There are times to speak up. One such situation for me is to see a child being mishandled by a parent. I'll speak up every time. Children should be treated as a "protected species" both mentally and physically

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