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jimjamuser 08-25-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 2248661)
Forced close-downs. "They" said earlier that the face-diapers don't work. Think about it----hard!! Did y'all comply before by staying in as much as possible, did you wash your hands and social distance and do everything told to you before-----yet still got the infection?? Tis strange it seemed to almost "go away" and now is re-emerging.

A virologist might think that a disease mutating and re-emerging is common.

JMintzer 08-25-2023 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2249536)
A virologist might think that a disease mutating and re-emerging is common.

It is. And most commonly, they mutate into a weaker strain... That way, they don't kill off all of the hosts...

Bill14564 08-25-2023 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2249515)
The flu numbers have been published and are non-zero.

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2249531)
According to the CDC, there were only 5K Flu Deaths in the 2020-2021 Flu Season.

That's less than 1/5 of a light year (25K deaths) and about 1/10 of a regular year (50K deaths)

Thank you. Published and non-zero.

The CDC has another count on the Weekly Influenza Surveillance Report page. It shows a significant drop in 2021 (the year, not the season) with a return to normal in 2022. It is interesting that the counts on this page are significantly less than on other CDC pages. Perhaps more detailed reporting?

jimjamuser 08-25-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2248692)
Let’s just hope we learned from the last go around that paper face masks are useless for the person wearing it and closing down the economy is disastrous. Maybe not

What I learned the last "go around" is that many ordinary people like to disregard advice by experts and scientists, while preferring advice from the dark web and conspiracy channels. (remember the ultra-violet light advice).

Vermilion Villager 08-25-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2248692)
Let’s just hope we learned from the last go around that paper face masks are useless for the person wearing it and closing down the economy is disastrous. Maybe not

Please tell us how wearing a K-95 or KN-95 is not effective?
Would you have open heart surgery if you knew the surgical team was operating on you without masks on?:ho:

asianthree 08-25-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2249533)
I don't see the humor in the fact that COVID is still with us and is KILLING some Americans. And since The Villages is made up of OLDER citizens who are demographically the ones most affected, then it becomes even less humorous.

Some of look at it, was Covid the factor, or just a long list of what was already a slow death for years. Stage 4 Mets, accident victims, abuse, death is the same, sometimes you just can’t save them, then you move on to the next

Medical people have a warped sense of humor, why, because death is a everyday occurrence, sometimes more than one, not just old people, that have lived a full life, but teens, and infants.

jimjamuser 08-25-2023 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2248797)
I guess I am on of the Lone Rangers. I still practice social distancing, won't even think about spending time in a large group setting like concerts, wash my hands regularly, and routinely disinfect my home . But, I have not gone back to wearing a mask. I have not had Covid and I try to keep it that way. Why invite trouble?

I agree. I must be one of the TONTOS.

asianthree 08-25-2023 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2249541)
Please tell us how wearing a K-95 or KN-95 is not effective?
Would you have open heart surgery if you knew the surgical team was operating on you without masks on?:ho:

Well they aren’t wearing a N-95. Plus by the time you are wheeled in, with little versed, and fentanyl, you won’t have a clue what they are wearing, right down to the bunny ears on their shoe covers.

paulajr 08-25-2023 02:55 PM

Hmm
 
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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2248585)
At CoachK's hospitals, the hospital staff COVID infection rate is borderline to the hospitals requiring staff and patients to be masked mandatorily.

Friends of mine are coming down sick testing positive. .

Just facts, no judgements, YMMV

Boston waste water upticking and its still summertime in the NorthEast!

Glad we moved out of Massachusetts 10 years ago…

jimjamuser 08-25-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2248893)
Your quote made me think. Most of us get on the younger generations case for not growing up, settling down, being responsible. Here is something to think about; The goal has always been 2.6:1. 2years 6months of salary to purchase a home. This is taking the mean income and mean price of a home. In 1980 for me it was 2.4. Today it is 9:1. The ratio of income to automobile is equally unbalanced (comparing 1980 to today). This makes it very hard to be able to "own" your own home (or car). You will own nothing and be thankful. I'm not even addressing the debt coming out of college (in one generation my college went from 9k to 48k a year). Young adults today really do have a bum deal. If you want to really see how bad it is, consider what social media has done to relationships. It is very concerning.

After 1980 the middle class began disappearing. Real average wages stayed constant with respect to inflation until about 2010 when some wage gain began. Look to the tax bracket changes to see that middle-class wealth went to the upper class.

jimjamuser 08-25-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle06 (Post 2249048)
It's time to treat COVID as another "Flu Variation". We will never be without it. If individuals feel the need to mask up, let them. Read the OSHA reports on the Cloth and Cheap Surgical Masks. They provide "No, None, Zero, Nunca, Nada" protection. The country will not tolerate another lockdown. We live in the Free State of Florida!

Nationally, with respect to COVID death rates, Florida had the 2nd most age-adjusted death rates among the states. TX. and other southern tier states had higher rates than Fl. And NY and Ca. had lower rates.

Byte1 08-25-2023 03:40 PM

I guess you learn something new, no matter how old you get. I had assumed that the reason for doctors wearing masks in surgery is so that THEY do not transmit germs/illnesses to the patient. AND they (some) would additionally wear face shields to prevent contamination from the patient.
Personally, I have no intention of wearing a mask IF it is not mandated somewhere that I have to go. I may have unknowingly had or carried the virus in the past couple years, but I am not going to change my activities or attire on the presumption that I may or may not be infected or carrying the virus. I have no problem with others wearing protection such as mask and gloves where ever they travel, in or out of their cars and in or outside of public places. When I was in Japan, many folks in Tokyo wore masks in the city. I didn't, but I am not going to pressure anyone else as to how they should or should not protect themselves.
I prefer to be the glass half full type of person, not a "the sky is falling" hysterical type. I do agree with those that believe that staying locked in their homes will protect them from catching any communicable diseases. I also believe that if you do not drive, you have less chance of having an traffic accident. If you do not fly, you will not die in a plane crash. But, I like to live dangerously. I have been known to step on the cracks in sidewalks and have even traveled in the back seat of a car without using the seat belt on more than one occasion.

jimjamuser 08-25-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 2249252)
I will NEVER wear a mask again.

Never say never. In the future, things change. There could be a NEW virus and people might have to wear a mask to get on a plane or enter a building. The world has global warming and warming causes more virus growth, not less.

jimjamuser 08-25-2023 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by merrymini (Post 2249330)
Covid is here to stay, get used to it. I am keeping my paper masks because I may run out of toilet paper, no other reason to keep them. I would not be surprised to see a “resurgence” before any upcoming political votes. Got to keep people scared and malleable. Works every time!

I wonder where the connection between voting and COVID came from. How about Russian troll farms - they have a vested interest in keeping US voting down.

jimjamuser 08-25-2023 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by haysus7 (Post 2249364)
Kentucky closed schools due to infections after 2 weeks of being open

I heard that 2 school districts in Kentucky had to close because of RSV, COVID, and flu.


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